I can't say for certain she was "stung" by a carpenter bee, but she was "somethinged" by one. I think the females are the ones with the stingers and get agitated hen someone gets too close to their nests. I am convinced our area (or at least our back yard) was one of the first areas to have these things. We had never heard of them before. I think I had to "Yahoo" something like "Bee and wood and hole". If you're lucky the flying wood roaches will stay away. They moved in right after the carpenter bees and apparently LOVE older, decaying trees. The good news is they don't care to live inside. The bad news is that sundown can get kind of dicey. Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: Barry Bryant To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 7:38 PM Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Love to Cache in Love Park Was your daughter stung by a carpenter bee ? I have never heard of them stinging. We have a lot of the carpenter bees here in Pacific. I am not so concerned about the perfect 1/4" hole they make but I don't like what the woodpeckers have done to my deck beams looking for the bees or larvae though. There are a few 18" - 24" long tunnels that have been "pecked" open along the entire length. This is an assumption that woodpeckers have done this but I can't imagine any other way for it to have happened. I can vouch for wasp spray not working on the carpenter bees but it works just fine on yellow jackets. Barry -----Original Message----- From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of tnands Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 12:02 PM To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Love to Cache in Love Park Carpenter bees can be aggressive. Just ask my daughter. I've read (and what we did) was to plug the holes with steel wool. This keeps them from getting out when the eggs hatch. If you use a totally wood plug the newly hatched can chew their way thru that (or so I've read). When we first noticed these in our yard they were in the cedar swing set, deck, wood around our windows and fascia. Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: Jon Mertz To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 11:19 AM Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Love to Cache in Love Park Laura, I don't know specifically about yellow jackets, but I would not be surprised if this did not hold true for them as well. Dad found that carpenter bees aren't even phased by wasp spray. They'll practically ask for more. Instead, use Carburetor cleaner. He would spray that in the holes after a bee flies home, and use wood filler (or similar - even a small roll of newspaper) to plug the hole and trap them in with it. Works like a charm because they breathe through their skin. Even hitting them with it in the open does a real number on those guys. I used the same tricks at my own house this spring, and it worked like a charm. Try that on your yellow jackets too, and even though the carpenter bees may be non-aggressive, they are VERY destructive. Get them early in the year, before the larvae break out causing massive damage and then come back next year to repeat the cycle. -Jon On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Laura Million <lmillio@xxxxxxxx> wrote: I have some lovely carpenter bees on my purple cone flowers. They are so friendly that I can actually touch them and they don’t move (no they are not dead). However I also have an old drain pipe that goes into the ground that a bunch of yellow jackets have made a nest. Anytime I go near them, a few come out to check me out. I accidently sprayed some water and a whole swarm came out (I went in the house). Any experts out there know what will kill them? Will wasp spray work on yellow jackets? I don’t want to spray something and make them mad again. J Laura Million 2_cats From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dan Henke Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 11:07 PM To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Love to Cache in Love Park Jim, STOP Picking on the bees :P ....they are easy to get around once you know they are there. Before going in to find the cache stop and watch for a little bit and you will see where they are going in and out. Just stay away from the hole and they usually leave you alone. Dang things hurt though I remember from my surveying days Dan --- On Sat, 8/22/09, Jim Greene <jimsgreene@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Jim Greene <jimsgreene@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [GeoStL] Love to Cache in Love Park To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 8:16 PM I love to cache, everybody know that, but bee very careful if you do "Love to Cache" in Love Park. While Sarah, Blue & I were looking for the cache, I got into some ground bees near the cache and got stung about 30 times. I guess I'm not allergic to them, I'm doing ok. I think they were about 10' inside the tree line, but I'm not going back to take measurements. And we never did find the cache either. I hope the bees weren't the bugs that JC Geo dropped into the cache yesterday. Jim