Thanks for the info about the carpenter bees. I have one (more?) building a nest in the hand rail of my back stairs. I thought I was going crazy when I saw sawdust chips and a perfectly drilled hole. I know I didn't do it unless I was doing home repairs while sleepwalking J. I was staining the back steps when one flew out of the hole. Yikes they are big. Laura Million 2_cats From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jon Mertz Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 11:19 AM To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Love to Cache in Love Park Laura, I don't know specifically about yellow jackets, but I would not be surprised if this did not hold true for them as well. Dad found that carpenter bees aren't even phased by wasp spray. They'll practically ask for more. Instead, use Carburetor cleaner. He would spray that in the holes after a bee flies home, and use wood filler (or similar - even a small roll of newspaper) to plug the hole and trap them in with it. Works like a charm because they breathe through their skin. Even hitting them with it in the open does a real number on those guys. I used the same tricks at my own house this spring, and it worked like a charm. Try that on your yellow jackets too, and even though the carpenter bees may be non-aggressive, they are VERY destructive. Get them early in the year, before the larvae break out causing massive damage and then come back next year to repeat the cycle. -Jon On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Laura Million <lmillio@xxxxxxxx> wrote: I have some lovely carpenter bees on my purple cone flowers. They are so friendly that I can actually touch them and they don't move (no they are not dead). However I also have an old drain pipe that goes into the ground that a bunch of yellow jackets have made a nest. Anytime I go near them, a few come out to check me out. I accidently sprayed some water and a whole swarm came out (I went in the house). Any experts out there know what will kill them? Will wasp spray work on yellow jackets? I don't want to spray something and make them mad again. J Laura Million 2_cats From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dan Henke Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 11:07 PM To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Love to Cache in Love Park Jim, STOP Picking on the bees :P ....they are easy to get around once you know they are there. Before going in to find the cache stop and watch for a little bit and you will see where they are going in and out. Just stay away from the hole and they usually leave you alone. Dang things hurt though I remember from my surveying days Dan --- On Sat, 8/22/09, Jim Greene <jimsgreene@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Jim Greene <jimsgreene@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [GeoStL] Love to Cache in Love Park To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 8:16 PM I love to cache, everybody know that, but bee very careful if you do "Love to Cache" in Love Park. While Sarah, Blue & I were looking for the cache, I got into some ground bees near the cache and got stung about 30 times. I guess I'm not allergic to them, I'm doing ok. I think they were about 10' inside the tree line, but I'm not going back to take measurements. And we never did find the cache either. I hope the bees weren't the bugs that JC Geo dropped into the cache yesterday. Jim