[GeoStL] Re: Logging multi caches

  • From: Michael Chambers <michaelc@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 01:12:35 -0600

- St. Charles?  Not a chance!  By the way,. would you be interested in joining the Concord Village Geocaching Club?

Thanks for your comments.
Mike C.

Glenn wrote:

- Hi mike,

nice of you to hop in. everyone here has a thought or two thats worth exploring.

At 08:45 PM 1/5/2003 -0600, you wrote:
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Hi Glenn;

I'm one of the new guys.  I haven't read anyone else's response to this, and probably haven't earned the right to speak yet anyway, but I thought I'd jump in on this one.

It seems to me that if a person (or two, or a very few) follows a set of coordinates to a cache (or any other sort of final goal), they've earned the right to log it in, but it has to be the final goal.  In the case of a multiple clue, multiple location type cache, the final location is the goal, and only finding that earns you the right to log it in.  You can't log in all the interim clue sites.  The number of people in a group can start to make things a little murky too.  If you walk along, and talk pleasantly, but don't make any of the effort to find the cache, how can you claim it as a find?

This happens alot, ya walk up on cachers at a cache, caching with a group ect.. interesting to think about just what actually should be done.


 If I found myself in a situation like that, I'd rather lead or trail the others by 10 min. or so, just to have to earn the find myself.  I would think those who found it first could have some pretty good sport with the ones who they could watch finding it later.

In the case of more than one cache being located at the end of one set of coordinates, you've only made one find.  Taking credit for making multiple finds at a cache like you've described would be cheating.  You haven't make multiple finds.  I look on this in the same way I consider a group of people sitting somewhere, passing a Travel Bug around the room, just so they could all log in entries for the TB.  It violates the spirit of the thing, and cheapens it to the point of being valueless.

Uh, gosh i dint know anyone here that would do THAT sort of thing. That would be despicable!! The big travelbug brew haha in minesota (i think) that is going on is interesting. They have set about to get around the rules to have the most people log the thing to get to be in the top 10 logged T-bugs. Everybody but them seems to think its a crock. (noticed how I misdirected attention to the Minnesota folks, clever!)   


How could someone feel good about skirting the ethics that have been established by others?  Do they feel like they are superior - or even equal?  I certainly wouldn't .

I think, all in all, when the new cachers figure out "the rules" everyone plays pretty fair.  There is always a learning curve that the rest of us have to wait out.  The easy rule are easy,  find it then log it once  but the issues you mention of  groups, ect. is where things get a little sloppy and everyones conscious should be their guide. 


Thought I'd vent.  I'll be quite again now.
Mike Chambers -  AKA "Leanman"

Glenn wrote:

Thanks for speaking up and do it again any time.
(you dont live in st. charles by chance do ya??)

gln

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