To all SLAGA members: Here is a note I posted on the above mentioned cache: ************************* In answer to the previous DNF note I thought I would defend myself against the slightly veiled accusations. 1st: This is an OLD cemetery that is not maintained very well or at all by the locals. The rundown appearance is part of the mystique of the place. It was NOT caused by geocachers. 2nd: The wall was in the shape it is in now when I placed the cache and has not changed much in the time the cache has been in place. IT was NOT torn down by geocachers looking for the cache. I am sure some rocks were moved but in the case of the wall it did nothing to destroy it. 3rd: Yes I did get permission to place the cache there and as to the damage caused by cachers please see the first two points. 4th: I am tired of being dumped on about this cache...it is in a very cool and historic location....you see some very interesting and exotic country....there is an old fashioned country store there that is almost worth the trip in itself which is why I set the cache in the first place. The cache itself is almost secondary to the things you see on the way and while you are in the neighborhood. The cache is difficult yes but is not anymore difficult than some others I have done...you DO NOT have to destroy anything to find it....it is located under a couple of rocks in the wall but in almost every case I have checked on it there was a portion of the cache visible if you look close enough..... 5th: I am seriously thinking of archiving this cache as it has proved too difficult for a lot of people and it is too far away for me to maintain it easily So if you have had this one on your to do list ...you might want to do it quick Thunder *************************** As stated in the log I am thinking VERY seriously about archiving this cache....it is difficult to maintain and with the price of gas going as high as it is I do NOT want to have to drive 45 to 50 minutes out of my way to check on a cache I am sure is there but just not found. So for those of you who have not found it yet you might want to consider going for it soon. Dan (Thunder) --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page