[GeoSTL] Re: Geo-Court
- From: "Dan Eubanks" <deubanks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 13:52:12 -0500
Jen:
I agree that it seems like we are making some decisions based on emotion
rather than visable fact these days. However, sometimes good sense wins out.
I have placed 3 caches in green metal ammo boxes. They are great for weather
proof containers. But I will start shopping around for clear containers.
Tupperware is considered a delacacy to many field mice. I have found many
containers of tupperware type plastic chewed open by mice that have nothing
to eat inside, they just like the tupperware. I found "Tour of Creve Coeur"
the other day. That box is great!!!! It is hard clear lexan with a rubber
gasketed top that is held snug by piano hinges and two clamp-latches. What a
great cache box! I got to get some of these!
Dan
AKA Eubie3
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For those following the results of the court date for the CA cache in the
RR tunnel, here's the results. Kind of scary that it could get this serious.
http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=21328
May 5 by Hillwilly (187 found)
Cacher's web site
Hillwilly's Day In Court
If most of you don't know what this is about this is an update on
what happened with Tunnel Vision 1909. On November 2, 2001 Hillwilly's cache
was blown up by the BOMB SQUAD in Dorris California. The FBI got involved
and charged us with Criminal Trespass and Criminal Vandalism for placing the
cache on railroad property. You cannot be within 150 feet of it. This
happened to be the weekend of the most terrorism that was suppose to hit all
the bridges and tunnels in the U.S. since the 9-11 attacks. There were some
people at the cache and replacing the ammo can back on the hillside when the
train conductor came out of the tunnel and noticed them. In turn, he called
the police and in turn they called in the bomb squad and the FBI. They ended
up coming to our house and investigating us and dropped the terrorist
charges. The other charges were then filed against Hillwilly. He had to go
to court on May 3rd. last Friday and here is the outcome. The judge started
out with a 1 hour commentary on every case to be presented except ours in
which Tonto, fell asleep and was snoring through it. Hillwilly went up
before him and took the newspaper article that was featured in our local
newspaper with him and Quad doing Geo-caching and promoting it, along with
alot of caches and groups of people with the cache. The judge threw it aside
and wasn't interested. He proceeded to start telling him the charges of
Criminal trespassing and vandalism. Hillwilly sprayed some gold paint where
it wasn't suppose to be. The sentence was then read. It goes as follows: 1
year jail time, 1 year on probation to stay out of any kind of trouble, 1
year license suspension in the state of California, and to pay all the
expenses incurred for the bomb squad, the railroad having to change 2 crews
out because of a 4 1/2 hour detainment and closing down of Hwy. 97. They had
to taxi 2 crew men in to change shifts and 2 crew men had to be taxi'd into
K.Falls and put up in a motel for the night then be taxi'd back to Redding
the next day. The expense just for that was $1650.00. With all the fines and
fees attatched to all of this, the grand total was $2030.00, which we had to
pay right then and there. To be kind ,for the moment, the judge told him he
would drop the 1 year jail time. He was not to be near the train tracks ever
again unless he was on the train. This was pretty hefty for playing a
harmless game. Tonto mentioned taking up donations, maybe not a bad idea.
The thing we didn't understand was the suspension of his driver's lecense
for a year. Pulled that out of a hat. I'm mentioning all of this so it
hopefully won't happen to anyone else. If you have any caches on RR property
pull them or move them, and you shouldn't go and get any one elses either.
This is probably the most expensive cache we will ever do and the most
talked about. I want to thank all of you for your thoughts and concern for
Hillwilly. Happy Geo-caching to all. Di
Hillwilly
A lesser fine may be stealing on of these
Bill making donation
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