[GeoStL] Re: From the forums.... (MoGeo forums)

  • From: "Walt Tarde" <waedrat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 20:20:19 -0500

I think you are right on target. Your response is very helpful and proper! 
Thanks,   A & W

From: Richard Sheffold 
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 3:23 PM
To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: [GeoStL] Re: From the forums.... (MoGeo forums)

So which lamp posts and guardrails are pre-approved?

From: Glenn 
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 3:18 PM
To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: [GeoStL] Re: From the forums.... (MoGeo forums)

Nearly always do. 

Via iP-4

On Oct 1, 2010, at 15:14, "Jim Bensman" <junkmailno@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

  Thank you!  I hope you go further!


  And I really like your tag line:  "Seek quality, not quantity".


  May I also suggest you ask them to put who gave permission on the cache page?



  Jim Bensman
  "Nature Bats Last"

  From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Glenn
  Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 11:34 AM
  To: Geocaching Freelist
  Subject: [GeoStL] From the forums.... (MoGeo forums)


  Posted Today, 11:30 AM 

  My usual mode of operation is to do what we can get away with until we get 
caught  :-) 

  As a result, we get a lot of stuff listed to go find that all looks pretty 
fun and creative and it creates little if any problems. I have been caught in 
the past with assuming permission has been granted for this and that and not 
really following up on that stuff. 

  In the last several months my rate of getting caught has gone up just a notch 
to where we are not really sneaking under the radar much anymore. Outsiders 
really do see what we are doing. Things that create problems are mostly 
permissions and legality issues. Conservation areas without permits, park 
systems and private property without adequate permissions ect. As a result I 
need to tighten up things just every so slightly to make it look like we being 
as complete as we can be. 

  If I recognize an area needs permission I am going to ask about it. If you 
tell me that you indeed have permission I will ask from who, (or whom, i get 
these confused), I may or may not ask for complete contact info.Name, title, 
email and phone. In light of things, I probably will so don't act surprised 
when i do. I used to ALWAYS contact the parks people to double check 
permissions and to thank them for allowing us to hid things in the parks. I got 
away the ALWAYS part and would only contact once in a while. I may go back to 
the ALWAYS part. Most of the time they like to hear from us and they like it 
when we play by their rules. 

  Remember that parking lots are indeed private property. It is illegal to stop 
on a lot of roadways unless it is an emergency. I am trying to figure out 
exactly where we can and cant stop. I know the extremes but the middle ground 
is fuzzy. For example, ya cant stop on the interstate to play games and have a 
picnic. When i was in England it was common to just pull over on the motorway 
and picnic in the median and shoulder areas, not here tho. It IS common and OK 
to stop on forest roads & country county roads. It is everything in-between 
that causes the biggest problems. 

  The legality of the "right of way" is also a big issue. I have spoken with 
lots of law enforcement and conservation law enforcement folks to determine 
just what is what. Again, I don't have the written statues but do have the 
rules that the guys and gals on the streets use. From the roadway to the ditch 
along the road is commonly considered the right of way. So that is something 
like 10-15 feet most of the time? maybe? I get lots of caches submitted 200 
feet off the pavement. That seems like it is off the right of way. I will ask 
about it. If you do not know who owns what I am going to assume it is private 

  Arrrg, I am out of time but I think you get the idea. I am going to be asking 
more questions about everything. Oh, if you submit a puzzle, also submit how 
the puzzle if solved. If you look at my cache finds you will see that I almost 
never log them. I am not a good puzzle solver I am not going to run out and 
start logging all the puzzles in the state. Actually, if you look at my logs 
you will see that I haven't logged any massive amounts of caches since about 
geowoodstock 2. I have logged a few but I just never really get around to it so 
not to worry, I will not be claiming any FTF's on your puzzles.  :-) 

  As a reviewer, I am prevented from doing so anyway. Your solutions are safe 
with me. 

  got to run. 

  thats about it. 


  "Seek quality, not quantity".


  Your friendly Missouri Geocache Review team is

  Glenn (*gln),   & Mongo 


  How to get your cache published quickly: http://tinyurl.com/yhnva3g


  Areas needing permission in Mo. http://tinyurl.com/lgyy84

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