He already said that, Jim. Sent from my iPad On Oct 1, 2010, at 3:14 PM, "Jim Bensman" <junkmailno@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Thank you! I hope you go further! > > > > And I really like your tag line: "Seek quality, not quantity". > > > > May I also suggest you ask them to put who gave permission on the cache page? > > > > > > Jim Bensman > "Nature Bats Last" > > From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Glenn > Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 11:34 AM > To: Geocaching Freelist > Subject: [GeoStL] From the forums.... (MoGeo forums) > > > > Posted Today, 11:30 AM > > My usual mode of operation is to do what we can get away with until we get > caught :-) > > As a result, we get a lot of stuff listed to go find that all looks pretty > fun and creative and it creates little if any problems. I have been caught in > the past with assuming permission has been granted for this and that and not > really following up on that stuff. > > In the last several months my rate of getting caught has gone up just a notch > to where we are not really sneaking under the radar much anymore. Outsiders > really do see what we are doing. Things that create problems are mostly > permissions and legality issues. Conservation areas without permits, park > systems and private property without adequate permissions ect. As a result I > need to tighten up things just every so slightly to make it look like we > being as complete as we can be. > > If I recognize an area needs permission I am going to ask about it. If you > tell me that you indeed have permission I will ask from who, (or whom, i get > these confused), I may or may not ask for complete contact info.Name, title, > email and phone. In light of things, I probably will so don't act surprised > when i do. I used to ALWAYS contact the parks people to double check > permissions and to thank them for allowing us to hid things in the parks. I > got away the ALWAYS part and would only contact once in a while. I may go > back to the ALWAYS part. Most of the time they like to hear from us and they > like it when we play by their rules. > > Remember that parking lots are indeed private property. It is illegal to stop > on a lot of roadways unless it is an emergency. I am trying to figure out > exactly where we can and cant stop. I know the extremes but the middle ground > is fuzzy. For example, ya cant stop on the interstate to play games and have > a picnic. When i was in England it was common to just pull over on the > motorway and picnic in the median and shoulder areas, not here tho. It IS > common and OK to stop on forest roads & country county roads. It is > everything in-between that causes the biggest problems. > > The legality of the "right of way" is also a big issue. I have spoken with > lots of law enforcement and conservation law enforcement folks to determine > just what is what. Again, I don't have the written statues but do have the > rules that the guys and gals on the streets use. From the roadway to the > ditch along the road is commonly considered the right of way. So that is > something like 10-15 feet most of the time? maybe? I get lots of caches > submitted 200 feet off the pavement. That seems like it is off the right of > way. I will ask about it. If you do not know who owns what I am going to > assume it is private property. > > Arrrg, I am out of time but I think you get the idea. I am going to be asking > more questions about everything. Oh, if you submit a puzzle, also submit how > the puzzle if solved. If you look at my cache finds you will see that I > almost never log them. I am not a good puzzle solver I am not going to run > out and start logging all the puzzles in the state. Actually, if you look at > my logs you will see that I haven't logged any massive amounts of caches > since about geowoodstock 2. I have logged a few but I just never really get > around to it so not to worry, I will not be claiming any FTF's on your > puzzles. :-) > > As a reviewer, I am prevented from doing so anyway. Your solutions are safe > with me. > > got to run. > > thats about it. > > > Glenn > > "Seek quality, not quantity". > > -- > > Your friendly Missouri Geocache Review team is > > Glenn (*gln), & Mongo > > > > How to get your cache published quickly: http://tinyurl.com/yhnva3g > > > > Areas needing permission in Mo. http://tinyurl.com/lgyy84