[GeoStL] Re: From the forums.... (MoGeo forums)

  • From: Glenn <gln.htc@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 15:18:27 -0500

Nearly always do. 


Via iP-4

On Oct 1, 2010, at 15:14, "Jim Bensman" <junkmailno@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Thank you!  I hope you go further!
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> And I really like your tag line:  "Seek quality, not quantity".
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> May I also suggest you ask them to put who gave permission on the cache page?
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> Jim Bensman
> "Nature Bats Last"
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> From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Glenn
> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 11:34 AM
> To: Geocaching Freelist
> Subject: [GeoStL] From the forums.... (MoGeo forums)
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> Posted Today, 11:30 AM
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> My usual mode of operation is to do what we can get away with until we get 
> caught  :-) 
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> As a result, we get a lot of stuff listed to go find that all looks pretty 
> fun and creative and it creates little if any problems. I have been caught in 
> the past with assuming permission has been granted for this and that and not 
> really following up on that stuff. 
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> In the last several months my rate of getting caught has gone up just a notch 
> to where we are not really sneaking under the radar much anymore. Outsiders 
> really do see what we are doing. Things that create problems are mostly 
> permissions and legality issues. Conservation areas without permits, park 
> systems and private property without adequate permissions ect. As a result I 
> need to tighten up things just every so slightly to make it look like we 
> being as complete as we can be. 
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> If I recognize an area needs permission I am going to ask about it. If you 
> tell me that you indeed have permission I will ask from who, (or whom, i get 
> these confused), I may or may not ask for complete contact info.Name, title, 
> email and phone. In light of things, I probably will so don't act surprised 
> when i do. I used to ALWAYS contact the parks people to double check 
> permissions and to thank them for allowing us to hid things in the parks. I 
> got away the ALWAYS part and would only contact once in a while. I may go 
> back to the ALWAYS part. Most of the time they like to hear from us and they 
> like it when we play by their rules. 
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> Remember that parking lots are indeed private property. It is illegal to stop 
> on a lot of roadways unless it is an emergency. I am trying to figure out 
> exactly where we can and cant stop. I know the extremes but the middle ground 
> is fuzzy. For example, ya cant stop on the interstate to play games and have 
> a picnic. When i was in England it was common to just pull over on the 
> motorway and picnic in the median and shoulder areas, not here tho. It IS 
> common and OK to stop on forest roads & country county roads. It is 
> everything in-between that causes the biggest problems. 
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> The legality of the "right of way" is also a big issue. I have spoken with 
> lots of law enforcement and conservation law enforcement folks to determine 
> just what is what. Again, I don't have the written statues but do have the 
> rules that the guys and gals on the streets use. From the roadway to the 
> ditch along the road is commonly considered the right of way. So that is 
> something like 10-15 feet most of the time? maybe? I get lots of caches 
> submitted 200 feet off the pavement. That seems like it is off the right of 
> way. I will ask about it. If you do not know who owns what I am going to 
> assume it is private property. 
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> Arrrg, I am out of time but I think you get the idea. I am going to be asking 
> more questions about everything. Oh, if you submit a puzzle, also submit how 
> the puzzle if solved. If you look at my cache finds you will see that I 
> almost never log them. I am not a good puzzle solver I am not going to run 
> out and start logging all the puzzles in the state. Actually, if you look at 
> my logs you will see that I haven't logged any massive amounts of caches 
> since about geowoodstock 2. I have logged a few but I just never really get 
> around to it so not to worry, I will not be claiming any FTF's on your 
> puzzles.  :-) 
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> As a reviewer, I am prevented from doing so anyway. Your solutions are safe 
> with me. 
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> got to run. 
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> thats about it. 
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> Glenn
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> "Seek quality, not quantity".
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> Your friendly Missouri Geocache Review team is
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> Glenn (*gln),   & Mongo 
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> How to get your cache published quickly: http://tinyurl.com/yhnva3g
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> Areas needing permission in Mo. http://tinyurl.com/lgyy84

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