- I don't always put "Placed with Permission" on my cache pages. Especially if there is a policy in place. St. Louis County has a blanket policy so no permission is needed. Just follow their rules and you can place away. St. Peters parks would not allow caching but they allowed rollerblading. After some work from Susan Ring and I believe Rich, they allowed it on their terms. Everyone who had caches in St. Peters parks archived them immediately. Had we disregarded their request, we wouldn't have caches there today. We still have very few caches placed in St. Charles County parks because of their policies. I don't see anyone just placing caches in either park system properties based upon the Frisbee Rule.... It doesn't fly here. Bottom line - St. Louis Area Geocaching RULES!!!! We are #1! <waving puffy #1 finger> Mike -----Original Message----- From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Rogers Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 10:45 AM To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Frisbee Rule???? - It isn't any more littering than what you do placing a cache where you have definite permission in a locale that requires it. As for your second point, I think you're grasping at straws here...what you speak of are the oranges to my apples. My position and the position of said unofficial rule is...why should you have to ask permission to do something in a place that does not requite permission to do virtually any other lawful activity? It certainly isn't a new concept...peruse the cache pages in your area or any other area and see what the ratio of "placed with permission" statements on the cache page vs. ones that do not have it... -Michael ________________________________ From: "bleu-kangareu@xxxxxxx" <bleu-kangareu@xxxxxxx> To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2008 10:21:32 AM Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Frisbee Rule???? - sounds like littering to me. what ever happened to 'take only photographs, leave only footprints'? what if I like to tinker around on rusty old cars? am I now able to use that rationale to leave rusty old cars in public spaces for others to find so they can tinker too? **************************************** For List Info or To make _ANY_ changes, including unsubscribing from this list, click -----> //www.freelists.org/list/geocaching Missouri Caches Scheduled to be Archived http://tinyurl.com/87cqw Missouri land use policies --> www.MoCache.net Mogeo forums -->http://mogeo.ipbhost.com/index.php "NGR LIST" --> //www.freelists.org/list/mga **************************************** For List Info or To make _ANY_ changes, including unsubscribing from this list, click -----> //www.freelists.org/list/geocaching Missouri Caches Scheduled to be Archived http://tinyurl.com/87cqw Missouri land use policies --> www.MoCache.net Mogeo forums -->http://mogeo.ipbhost.com/index.php "NGR LIST" --> //www.freelists.org/list/mga