Ok, one more time. The cougars are the ones walking on all fours. Bigfoot will be walking upright like us. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Griffin To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 6:08 PM Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Cougars in IL?? And all this time I thought it was bigfoot! :-) ---- Original Message ----- From: Eric & Dayna East To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 4:28 PM Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Cougars in IL?? Jim is right, there was one killed by a train in IL & if memory serves me correctly, it was near Chester! I live in Quincy, IL & there had been reports of sightings near Ewing, MO about 20 miles away. I didn't believe it until someone video taped it. Eric ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Bensman To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 9:17 AM Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Cougars in IL?? They are verified in IL. One was killed by a train a few years ago and they tested the DNA. There are lots of reports of Cougars in IL and MO (where they are also verified by DNA testing). They are not sure if they are escaped pets or migrating from the West. Jim Bensman "Nature Bats Last" -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joe Taylor Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 8:15 AM To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: rivervalleygeocachers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [GeoStL] Cougars in IL?? Dont worry it will get into geocaching after an introduction to why I am asking a question, to IL Geocachers (This is sent to both SLAGA and RiverValleyGeocachers) I have been doing a little research, after I thought my mind had been playin gtricks on me. From about 4 years ago to just last month, I have been interested in Cougars /Mountain lions, here in IL.. It first started one night when I was driving a backroad in the Shawnee National Forest, near Rockwood IL (near chester), and I saw this shadowlike figure walk in front of my car. I love touring backroads, and I was new to the area so I was exploring all around, but this time at night, looking for a spot to see the stars with no lights. Going up and down hills on an isolated gravel road, I saw an animal a little larger than a dog, with a long thick tail. It looked like sort of a big cat. It took a brief glance at me and I saw the reflection of it's eyes, so it is an image that still haunts me and I remember very well. My friend also saw it, but I still did not know whether I should tell others or not, they might think I was crazy, I mean all the facts say there are no Cougars in IL. I mentioned a few times at work, and to my surprise, about 5 different people who hunt say they seen some sort of big cat as well. About 3 years ago (or was it 2?); it was when the river got somewhat high again and they closed IL-3. But when they opened it I went out to the Spillway at Kinkaid Lake to see what the waterflow looked like, and on my way back out (this was daylight too) I saw a similar figure I saw that night, only with better perception. It did not run like a dog or a coyote, but like a cat. I sped up to see a closer look, because now IDNR was taking reports of Mountain Lion Sightings. Before I could catch up to it, it veard sideways and off into the woods, but I saw it's long tail. I went to the IDNR Conservation Police to file a report, cause now I was sure I saw one. They tried over and over again to convince me it was a bobcat, but I went to the STL Zoo to get another look at the Mountain Lion and it looked the same. I then found out that IDNR quit taking reports due to an overflow of Cougar sightings, and after a local newspaper reported they found a dead cougar on some railroad tracks locally, then about a year ago, a local ostrich farmer had 3 of his ostriches attaked (2 killed) one survived, and they matched that up to Cougar claw marks. Now the Geocaching part comes... When obtaining permission for a cache site, I noticed an IDNR office had a Mounted Bobcat. This brought up conversation about wildlife and then cougars. This time instead of "IL has no Cougars", like in the past, they now admit to them being there, but do not admit to releasing them but claim that others have brought them and released them. The story is always changing. I would like to ask if anyone's been caching or hiking in IL if they have seen any Mountain Lions in thier adventures, but also like to let y'all know that they are here, in the Shawnee National Forest. Just something of interest we can look forward to if and when they grow in numbers again, asking for any other Cougar sightings in IL; just a little research I am doing Joe Taylor ITS THAT TIME OF YEAR AGAIN (Good for anytime of the Year) Rockey the Flying Squirrell -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we.