-Perhaps some of us just don't have the energy any longer to worry about things that do not affect our lives. I would rather see the nice side of people than always focus on the bad.. But, then again, that's just the 60's coming out of me.... :-) It took you a while to write this email.. I just don't have the energy to do so..
Hey, but how about the Hamburg Trail?? Lot's of new caches! Mike----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Rogers" <mrogers07@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 10:34 AM Subject: [GeoStL] Re: CoolCaches to be Archived - Like I mentioned earlier...not everyone shares your view. I know of cachers in Illinois and Wisconsin, for example, that are annoyed by him because he is known to "replace" cache containers for "missing" caches when the original cache in question was still there and active...in one case mere feet away. They delete his finds in these cases and he sends them nastygrams. Perhaps the funniest thing is that there is a series of caches in another area that mocks him. Is this the behavior people extend to a "really nice guy?" I have to ask...have you actually read what this guy has wrote? He disparages people incessantly, creates bookmark lists which mock people and in general acts like a complete a$$ when people dare question him. This is a "nice" guy? You can honestly sit there and say that such behavior is indicative of someone "nice?" I think the big problem is that some people here are so friggin worried about being "nice" that they cannot see the forest for the trees. Sure...he's placed some caches in downtown St. Louis (whooptie-doo)and yes, I may be an "out of towner" (elitist, anyone?) but that still doesn't make him any less a jerk. People defend to the end because they don't have the guts to actually speak their minds and instead rely on a heavy veil of political correctness. -Michael --- Glenn Nash <GLNash@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
- He is actually a he$$ of a nice guy, maintains his caches all over the country better than most folks maintain their caches in town. He was one of the 1st folks to actually hide many caches downtown. Leave it to an out of towner to think anything like that would be important for anyone. Mike Lusicic wrote: > - I just read his profile, and I came away with the following: > > 1. He has hidden quite a few caches, and with their diverse > locations may not be able to keep up with that many and that > MIGHT be a factor. > 2. I have not hidden any so I really cannot know much about 1 > above, so I think I should shy away from that. > 3. I see someone who is avid about what he does and doesn't > understand those who are not up to his level of commitment. > 4. He has his own ideas and feelings and is sharing them openly and > not trying to be politically correct. They just seem to be a > genuine expression of what he feels without a PC filter applied. > I rather like that and would rather know what someone REALLY > thinks even if I don't agree with them. > 5. I like his approach to creating caches. I have not attempted to > find any of his, so I don't know whether what he says translates > into reality, but if it does, then I can see his disappointment > in his hard work being violated. > 6. If he is hiding things just for the pleasure he gets out of the > logs and adulation for a good cache, then I think he could have > a better, healthier attitude. Perhaps he should not be in it for > praise or think it is only good if it works the way he envisions > it. 'Tis better to give than receive. That is just my own not > politically corrected opinion. > 7. It is frustrating finding a cache that has been trashed, so I > can imagine his frustration in having to replace them. > 8. I too don't feel like people should be making a big deal about > leaving, but this is a notice on his cache, which I can > certainly understand. He published his philosophy of not > archiving caches, so if he is going to change his policy, then I > see it as only a courtesy to announce that as well. He certainly > does not appear to have a problem with saying what is on his > mind. Again, I admire that. > 9. I don't agree that he should be name calling, but if he has to > put a label on the group causing problems, then is it all that > bad? He may have chosen perhaps a better label which goes back > to political correctness, but if it is a reflection of what is > in his mind, and it is his cache page, then why not. I don't > believe in censorship. > > That being said, I respect the opinions expressed by others who don't > think very much of this guy. If I did otherwise I would be a hypocrite > since I don't believe in censorship. So in the end, he has opinions > and y'all do to. And here are mine. A different perspective often > helps me when I think about things. So that is why I express mine. > Sometimes I get something back that makes me think, and that is always > a growth experience. That is why I don't mind off topic discussions > because I think they are an opportunity to grow and learn. > > Michael Rogers wrote: >> - >> He could place a hundred of the best downtown and it >> still wouldn't excuse his behavior. >> >> -Michael >> >> --- Andrew Senger <asenger@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> >>> - >>> Nice reply, Mike. >>> >>> If we took CC's caches away from downtown, there'd >>> be hardly any left. >>> His hides are some of the best I've seen, >>> especially for urban areas. >>> It took three trips to St Louis Riverfront to >>> complete that one, and >>> I still haven't found Old Saint Lou after three >>> trips (granted, one at >>> night). There's another less than a block from >>> where I park for work >>> that I haven't tried yet. I can only imagine that >>> it's just as >>> tricky. >>> >>> Not only does CC place caches, he's one of the few >>> that will replace >>> caches, whether it's replacing a broken container or >>> a full log. >>> >>> Andrew (yawetag) >>> >>> On 10/26/07, Mike Griffin <griff@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> - >>>> I agree with Coolcache. I think that if you take >>>> >>> the time for a good hide >>> >>>> with unique containers, you deserve more than a >>>> >>> cut and paste log. I have >>> >>>> seen people delete cut and paste logs (Dallas). If >>>> >>> you spend time creating a >>> >>>> clever cache, the least a person can do is hide it >>>> >>> back as they found it. >>> >>>> Too many times people just stuff it back because >>>> >>> there is another cache only >>> >>>> .15 from where they are. It gets frustrating!! >>>> >>>> He should be proud of the hides and his >>>> >>> containers. He has hidden 82. >>> >>>> Without people like him, what would we look for? I >>>> >>> know his pain.. I too >>> >>>> have become frustrated with carelessness. >>>> >>>> Mike >>>>>>> -- >>> Andrew Senger>>> asenger@xxxxxxxxx >>> http://yawetag.110mb.com >>> "I can't win anything. In fact, if you look up >>> 'loser' in the >>> dictionary, you'll see someone else's photo!" >>> --Andrew Senger >>> >>> >>> **************************************** >>> For List Info or To make _ANY_ changes, including >>> unsubscribing from this >>> list, click -----> >>> //www.freelists.org/list/geocaching >>> Missouri Caches Scheduled to be Archived
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