[GeoStL] Re: Changes for the new year.

  • From: Ken Auld <kauld1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 07:08:04 -0600

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Glen
 
After caching in other areas that are not maintained like ours, I just want to 
thank you for the job that you do keeping our cachers on their toes.  I have 
ran into other cachers on their vacations and they enjoyed out up to date and 
ready caches.  Once again thanks
 
Ken> From: glenn.geocachingadmin@xxxxxxxxx> To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Changes for the new year. > Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 
23:52:04 -0600> > -> The "Disabled Status" is only meant to last a few weeks. I 
had > stretched it to a few to several months because I really do not like > to 
archive caches. That has been way too long resulting in lots of > junk in the 
playing field tying up good area. I am now getting back > to the intended use 
of the "disabled status".> > 1) it depends on when in the cycle your 
disablement (new word) > happens. When i get ready to do my maintenance notes i 
grab the > latest "disabled caches" PQ and send out the notes. That note would 
be > Note number 1.> > So, for example if you disable a cache right AFTER i do 
my monthly > sweeps, i probably would not see your disabled cache until the 
next > month then you would get a note. So you would get a few weeks extra by > 
sliding in right after all the other notes went out on the 1st month. > If you 
disabled a day before i grabbed my disable PQ you would get > your note right 
away so your time would be shorter.> > 2) Only if that someone is Me or RotC. 
We look at "should be > archived" notes on a case by case basis also. Some 
notes are bogus, > others are not.> > 3) Instead of getting a note, then 
another note, another note then yet > another note telling you that you have 
already had 2 or 3 notes and > now you have until the next time i look at 
caches before i archive > your cache. You will get one note and if it is not 
fixed by the next > time i get around to doing notes, the cache will be 
archived. That > should get most folks between 4 to 8 weeks before a cache is 
archived. > People that fix their caches generally do it by then.> > Disabling 
because of excessive DNF's can happen but 1st I have to > notice that there are 
a bunch of DNF's on a cache. Poking around and > looking for lots of DNF's is 
last on my things to do. Some months i > dont get to it at all. Generally tho 
if a cache gets up to 4 no finds > (depending on the cache) it should be looked 
at. That also depends on > who did the looking and what cache it is. If 4 
cachers with hundreds > of finds each didn't find a 1/1 cache, it is probably 
gone. If 5 brand > new cachers went out together and didn't find a gigantically 
difficult > cache, that is another matter. Each one is looked at separately and 
> on its own merits but if a cache accumulates many no finds I would > think 
the cache owner would want to go take a look. That is why I wait > until about 
4 no finds. It gives the owner time to go look 1st.> > 4) That is a possibility 
then when the cache gets repaired it can be > reactivated if the time has not 
been too great.> > > I really do not anticipate that this will be a problem for 
all the > folks here that maintain their caches. Around here we know who gets > 
out and does the work to keep the playing area nice for others. It > will be a 
great deal of trouble for all the folks that toss out > garbage, never 
maintain, loose interest and never go back to fix > anything.> > > > On Jan 9, 
2009, at 10:48 PM, Mike Griffin wrote:> > > -> > OK, a couple of questions...> 
>> > 1. Once a cache is disabled by the owner, how long do we have to > > fix 
it?> >> > 2. If someone posts an Archive note on someones cache, does that > > 
count as a 1> > note?> >> > 3. Since it is only a 1 note cycle, does that mean 
you will archive > > it if you> > don't hear back, or will you archive it 
regardless after the first > > note.> >> > Today, I enabled 3 caches that had 4 
no finds or more. Each cache > > was there,> > logs dry. I was afraid I was 
going to get> > a note disabling the cache from you guys because one was over 1 
> > week. The> > Shed took me 2 weeks to get the parts I needed to replace it.> 
> 4. I know you said there would be exceptions, I'm just imagining > > that 
people> > will just archive it rather than deal with it if the time to fix it 
is> > shortened> > too much.> >> > Mike> >> > ----- Original Message -----> > 
From: "Glenn Nash" <glenn.geocachingadmin@xxxxxxxxx>> > To: "SLAGA" 
<geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 7:34 PM> > 
Subject: [GeoStL] Changes for the new year.> >> >> > -> >> > I have a long 
story but i am waiting for it to come back from the> > editors.> >> > DISABLED 
CACHES :> > Long story short, we will no longer have the customary "Three note> 
> cycle" in dealing with disabled caches. The cycle will move to a ONE> > note 
cycle. I have seen other reviewers use a 2 week cycle. Two> > weeks seems a 
little short to me. It takes me longer than that for> > find my GPS.> >> > 
Typically, people that maintain their caches do so very quickly. Those> > that 
don't repair quickly never do. I could wait for 6 note cycles> > and it will 
not make any difference.> >> > Caches that are victims of forces beyond anyones 
control will be> > archived and can be renewed when the problems are resolved.> 
>> > There will always be exceptions and we will deal with them when they> > 
come up.> >> > See, this was nicer than the 4 pages I started off with.> >> > 
Pass the word.> >> > Your friendly Missouri Geocache Review team,> > Glenn 
(*gln) & Reviewer of the Cache (RotC)> >> >> >> >> >> >> > 
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