- Glen After caching in other areas that are not maintained like ours, I just want to thank you for the job that you do keeping our cachers on their toes. I have ran into other cachers on their vacations and they enjoyed out up to date and ready caches. Once again thanks Ken> From: glenn.geocachingadmin@xxxxxxxxx> To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Changes for the new year. > Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 23:52:04 -0600> > -> The "Disabled Status" is only meant to last a few weeks. I had > stretched it to a few to several months because I really do not like > to archive caches. That has been way too long resulting in lots of > junk in the playing field tying up good area. I am now getting back > to the intended use of the "disabled status".> > 1) it depends on when in the cycle your disablement (new word) > happens. When i get ready to do my maintenance notes i grab the > latest "disabled caches" PQ and send out the notes. That note would be > Note number 1.> > So, for example if you disable a cache right AFTER i do my monthly > sweeps, i probably would not see your disabled cache until the next > month then you would get a note. So you would get a few weeks extra by > sliding in right after all the other notes went out on the 1st month. > If you disabled a day before i grabbed my disable PQ you would get > your note right away so your time would be shorter.> > 2) Only if that someone is Me or RotC. We look at "should be > archived" notes on a case by case basis also. Some notes are bogus, > others are not.> > 3) Instead of getting a note, then another note, another note then yet > another note telling you that you have already had 2 or 3 notes and > now you have until the next time i look at caches before i archive > your cache. You will get one note and if it is not fixed by the next > time i get around to doing notes, the cache will be archived. That > should get most folks between 4 to 8 weeks before a cache is archived. > People that fix their caches generally do it by then.> > Disabling because of excessive DNF's can happen but 1st I have to > notice that there are a bunch of DNF's on a cache. Poking around and > looking for lots of DNF's is last on my things to do. Some months i > dont get to it at all. Generally tho if a cache gets up to 4 no finds > (depending on the cache) it should be looked at. That also depends on > who did the looking and what cache it is. If 4 cachers with hundreds > of finds each didn't find a 1/1 cache, it is probably gone. If 5 brand > new cachers went out together and didn't find a gigantically difficult > cache, that is another matter. Each one is looked at separately and > on its own merits but if a cache accumulates many no finds I would > think the cache owner would want to go take a look. That is why I wait > until about 4 no finds. It gives the owner time to go look 1st.> > 4) That is a possibility then when the cache gets repaired it can be > reactivated if the time has not been too great.> > > I really do not anticipate that this will be a problem for all the > folks here that maintain their caches. Around here we know who gets > out and does the work to keep the playing area nice for others. It > will be a great deal of trouble for all the folks that toss out > garbage, never maintain, loose interest and never go back to fix > anything.> > > > On Jan 9, 2009, at 10:48 PM, Mike Griffin wrote:> > > -> > OK, a couple of questions...> >> > 1. Once a cache is disabled by the owner, how long do we have to > > fix it?> >> > 2. If someone posts an Archive note on someones cache, does that > > count as a 1> > note?> >> > 3. Since it is only a 1 note cycle, does that mean you will archive > > it if you> > don't hear back, or will you archive it regardless after the first > > note.> >> > Today, I enabled 3 caches that had 4 no finds or more. Each cache > > was there,> > logs dry. I was afraid I was going to get> > a note disabling the cache from you guys because one was over 1 > > week. The> > Shed took me 2 weeks to get the parts I needed to replace it.> > 4. I know you said there would be exceptions, I'm just imagining > > that people> > will just archive it rather than deal with it if the time to fix it is> > shortened> > too much.> >> > Mike> >> > ----- Original Message -----> > From: "Glenn Nash" <glenn.geocachingadmin@xxxxxxxxx>> > To: "SLAGA" <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 7:34 PM> > Subject: [GeoStL] Changes for the new year.> >> >> > -> >> > I have a long story but i am waiting for it to come back from the> > editors.> >> > DISABLED CACHES :> > Long story short, we will no longer have the customary "Three note> > cycle" in dealing with disabled caches. The cycle will move to a ONE> > note cycle. I have seen other reviewers use a 2 week cycle. Two> > weeks seems a little short to me. It takes me longer than that for> > find my GPS.> >> > Typically, people that maintain their caches do so very quickly. Those> > that don't repair quickly never do. I could wait for 6 note cycles> > and it will not make any difference.> >> > Caches that are victims of forces beyond anyones control will be> > archived and can be renewed when the problems are resolved.> >> > There will always be exceptions and we will deal with them when they> > come up.> >> > See, this was nicer than the 4 pages I started off with.> >> > Pass the word.> >> > Your friendly Missouri Geocache Review team,> > Glenn (*gln) & Reviewer of the Cache (RotC)> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ****************************************> > For List Info or To make _ANY_ changes, including unsubscribing from > > this> > list, click -----> //www.freelists.org/list/geocaching> > Missouri Caches Scheduled to be Archived http://tinyurl.com/87cqw> > Missouri land use policies --> www.MoCache.net> > Mogeo forums -->http://mogeo.ipbhost.com/index.php> > "NGR LIST" --> //www.freelists.org/list/mga> >> >> >> > ****************************************> > For List Info or To make _ANY_ changes, including unsubscribing from > > this> > list, click -----> //www.freelists.org/list/geocaching> > Missouri Caches Scheduled to be Archived http://tinyurl.com/87cqw> > Missouri land use policies --> www.MoCache.net> > Mogeo forums -->http://mogeo.ipbhost.com/index.php> > "NGR LIST" --> //www.freelists.org/list/mga> > Your friendly Missouri Geocache Review team,> Glenn (*gln) & Reviewer of the Cache (RotC)> > > > > > > ****************************************> For List Info or To make _ANY_ changes, including unsubscribing from this> list, click -----> //www.freelists.org/list/geocaching > Missouri Caches Scheduled to be Archived http://tinyurl.com/87cqw> Missouri land use policies --> www.MoCache.net> Mogeo forums -->http://mogeo.ipbhost.com/index.php> "NGR LIST" --> //www.freelists.org/list/mga _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_012009 **************************************** For List Info or To make _ANY_ changes, including unsubscribing from this list, click -----> //www.freelists.org/list/geocaching Missouri Caches Scheduled to be Archived http://tinyurl.com/87cqw Missouri land use policies --> www.MoCache.net Mogeo forums -->http://mogeo.ipbhost.com/index.php "NGR LIST" --> //www.freelists.org/list/mga