- I did a lot of caving when I was in college, mostly in New York state. That was 30 years ago. Some but not a lot since then. Middle age spread doesn't help. Roger p.s. what is MVOR? **************************************************************************** Our WebPage! Http://WWW.GeoStL.com Mail List Info. //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=geocaching ****************************************************************************