[GeoStL] Re: Caching in National Parks!

  • From: Glenn <Glenn@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 10:46:18 -0500

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Yes, that would be nice.

At 10:32 AM 10/6/2004, Mike Lusicic wrote:

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>Gee wiz, maybe the another answer is for the park to start sponsoring
>their own caches like Crestwood did. Then they can toot their own
>whistle wherever they want. The two together would probably be a nice
>combo, and maybe a way to perhaps get some geocachers in there to maybe
>set them up for the park service, and then they can maintain it as just
>another part of the park facility. It could start up a nice relationship
>that may help the two sides appreciate each other and maybe be better
>for the encounter.
>
>Glenn wrote:
>
> >-
> >Well, if the geological people say that this thing is a really cool thing,
> >I  cant really say otherwise. I dont know a thing about rocks except that
> >they were fun to put inside of snowballs.
> >
> >They think they have a lot to offer and would like to be able to show the
> >stuff to visitors.  With the ban on hard (real) caches by  the NPS that
> >hasn't been able to happen with the triditional cache type and with the
> >reluctance of the reviewers to start listing every VC that someone claims
> >to be a cool rock, (or whatever) the geology folks wants to OK them which
> >is OK with the gc.com reviewers.
> >
> >It could be a 2 edged sword.
> >
> >It will be nice to get some bonified neat attractions in the NPS.  Thats is
> >good.
> >
> >Other parks could (and have) discovered that the virtual caches are a
> >dandy  "non-littering" way to have geocaching in the parks and will (and
> >some parks have) banned all but virtual caches in their parks. The result
> >is that there will be no geocaches in their parks. That is not a good thing.
> >
> >glenn
> >
> >
> >At 10:04 AM 10/6/2004, Mike Lusicic wrote:
> >
> >
> >>So this is more about the gc.com guys than it is about actually being
> >>able to walk around in a national park with a GPSr in your hand. So an
> >>expert saying fossils in rocks are cool trumps the gc.com guy who
> >>doesn't think much about fossils in rocks, or at least provides dry
> >>commentary (at a 14 year old level) on why it is there. OK. I get the
> >>picture.
> >>
> >>Glenn wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>-
> >>>Basically it is a virtual cache that will be approved by the geology
> >>>guys.  GC.com reviewers will not have anything to do with them.
> >>>
> >>>If you just set up a virtual cache now to go look at some rocks, I am
> >>>pretty sure that the evil reviewers will mention something like "Not 
> enough
> >>>wow" or "what is so special about a fossil in a rock?"   or something like
> >>>that.  They are a nasty lot.
> >>>
> >>>Since the real deal geology guys are looking at these, I am thinking that
> >>>the likelyhood of getting to see something that is actually pretty neat
> >>>would be pretty high.  Or so they are hoping.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>At 09:25 AM 10/6/2004, Mike Lusicic wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>-
> >>>>OK, being a new guy, I just have to ask this: What does this really give
> >>>>you?  It seems to me that if you are interesting formations, there is
> >>>>nothing that stops anyone from publishing such interesting information
> >>>>and giving the coordinates of the location so you can go see for
> >>>>yourself. Is this banned in national parks now? If you cannot leave
> >>>>anything according to this rule, then I just don't see what it adds
> >>>>other than the fact you have to go through more paperwork than if you
> >>>>didn't call it a virtual geocache! So what am I missing? Seems that
> >>>>"EarthCache" is just a name and bureaucratic hoops to do what is already
> >>>>legal in a national park, unless the spot in question was not already
> >>>>open to the public.
> >>>>
> >>>>Glenn wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>-
> >>>>>They have been working on this one for a while. When I first heard 
> of this
> >>>>>I thought of Know Future right off the bat.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>From what I gatehr, getting one of these listed will not be a slam dunk,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>easy deal tho.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>glenn
> >>>>>
> >>>>>At 08:06 AM 10/6/2004, Mike Griffin wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>-
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Caches will be allowed in National Parks if they can meet these
> >>>>>>guidelines...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>http://www.geosociety.org/EarthCache/guidelines.htm
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Looks like Jeremy at GC.COM is on board with this as there is a new
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>icon for
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> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>earthcaches. All you professional and amateur geologists, time to get
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>busy!
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>Mike
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