[GeoStL] Re: Caching in National Parks!
- From: "Mike Griffin" <griff@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 10:47:03 -0500
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Also, these will be assigned projects. A lot of work will go into these for
educational value as well as the cool factor. Each person assigned to a
project will have to document why this rock is sooo cool and do research on
the area. Being a wanna-be biologist / arachologist, I have a real interest
in this kind of stuff. I think it is very cool that Science and Technology
are working with the Environment in a positive light.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn" <Glenn@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 10:20 AM
Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Caching in National Parks!
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> Well, if the geological people say that this thing is a really cool thing,
> I cant really say otherwise. I dont know a thing about rocks except that
> they were fun to put inside of snowballs.
>
> They think they have a lot to offer and would like to be able to show the
> stuff to visitors. With the ban on hard (real) caches by the NPS that
> hasn't been able to happen with the triditional cache type and with the
> reluctance of the reviewers to start listing every VC that someone claims
> to be a cool rock, (or whatever) the geology folks wants to OK them which
> is OK with the gc.com reviewers.
>
> It could be a 2 edged sword.
>
> It will be nice to get some bonified neat attractions in the NPS. Thats
is
> good.
>
> Other parks could (and have) discovered that the virtual caches are a
> dandy "non-littering" way to have geocaching in the parks and will (and
> some parks have) banned all but virtual caches in their parks. The result
> is that there will be no geocaches in their parks. That is not a good
thing.
>
> glenn
>
>
> At 10:04 AM 10/6/2004, Mike Lusicic wrote:
> >So this is more about the gc.com guys than it is about actually being
> >able to walk around in a national park with a GPSr in your hand. So an
> >expert saying fossils in rocks are cool trumps the gc.com guy who
> >doesn't think much about fossils in rocks, or at least provides dry
> >commentary (at a 14 year old level) on why it is there. OK. I get the
> >picture.
> >
> >Glenn wrote:
> >
> > >-
> > >Basically it is a virtual cache that will be approved by the geology
> > >guys. GC.com reviewers will not have anything to do with them.
> > >
> > >If you just set up a virtual cache now to go look at some rocks, I am
> > >pretty sure that the evil reviewers will mention something like "Not
enough
> > >wow" or "what is so special about a fossil in a rock?" or something
like
> > >that. They are a nasty lot.
> > >
> > >Since the real deal geology guys are looking at these, I am thinking
that
> > >the likelyhood of getting to see something that is actually pretty neat
> > >would be pretty high. Or so they are hoping.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >At 09:25 AM 10/6/2004, Mike Lusicic wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>-
> > >>OK, being a new guy, I just have to ask this: What does this really
give
> > >>you? It seems to me that if you are interesting formations, there is
> > >>nothing that stops anyone from publishing such interesting information
> > >>and giving the coordinates of the location so you can go see for
> > >>yourself. Is this banned in national parks now? If you cannot leave
> > >>anything according to this rule, then I just don't see what it adds
> > >>other than the fact you have to go through more paperwork than if you
> > >>didn't call it a virtual geocache! So what am I missing? Seems that
> > >>"EarthCache" is just a name and bureaucratic hoops to do what is
already
> > >>legal in a national park, unless the spot in question was not already
> > >>open to the public.
> > >>
> > >>Glenn wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>-
> > >>>They have been working on this one for a while. When I first heard of
this
> > >>>I thought of Know Future right off the bat.
> > >>>
> > >>>From what I gatehr, getting one of these listed will not be a slam
dunk,
> > >>>easy deal tho.
> > >>>
> > >>>glenn
> > >>>
> > >>>At 08:06 AM 10/6/2004, Mike Griffin wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>-
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Caches will be allowed in National Parks if they can meet these
> > >>>>guidelines...
> > >>>>
> > >>>>http://www.geosociety.org/EarthCache/guidelines.htm
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Looks like Jeremy at GC.COM is on board with this as there is a new
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>icon for
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>>earthcaches. All you professional and amateur geologists, time to
get
> > busy!
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Mike
> > >>>>
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