I have a Nuvi 2555LMT. Of course, it's SO last year. I can't quite figure out the equivalent current model. Maybe the 2557LMT? Anyhow, lifetime maps and traffic included. I think I paid around $180 for it. Although I update the maps occasionally, it only matters in areas with significant construction. Traffic is "free" (that's the T in LMT) but pretty useless as far as I can tell. For example, I have seen situations on weekends where there are traffic alerts that are clearly left over from Friday night. One good thing about frequent map updates, though, is that some ongoing large construction projects (like the I-64 reconstruction or the current bridge project) will show up as a construction zone. Map updates are extremely slow and a PITA. Has nothing to do with the speed of your connection. Note that "lifetime" really means "as long as Garmin wants" - so YMMV. Personally, what I looked for was a decent-sized display, lifetime maps, speaks street names (virtually all of them do this now) and without too many bells and whistles (for example, I can easily live without voice activation, Bluetooth connections, and a unit that learns my driving patterns and suggests more eco-friendly routes). Ability to add an SD or microSD card is good if you do custom POIs (for the geocachers out there). Tom ________________________________ From: "Hobbit Taz @ Charter" <hobbittaz@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wed, March 6, 2013 3:09:35 PM Subject: [GeoStL] Auto GPSr I have a friend looking to purchase a GPSr for his Wife's car. He would like something that will have maps that will stay up-to-date without a yearly fee. Any one have any preferrences for this sort of GPSr. Do the road maps stay pretty much useful without subscriptions? What about Traffic and road constrution (i know that would requre a fee) but are those expensive features? I don't believe he plans to use it outside the car so portability and entering "GPS Coordinates" probably not high priority to have. Although, he is a boy scout father and I know they have gone on day hikes which, as a cacher, I know having a gps with you can be a good thing.