I think the cache should be archived. No point in sending strangers into even stranger situations. That "anti-cacher" sounds like someone who might just stew over something like this and be come less and less cordial as he encounters even more people. There have to be plenty of other places to put a cache in the area. As a cacher you have to put a certan amount of trust into the hands of strangers -- to trust they have something fun to show you and not try to get you smacked around a bit lol.. After that, I'd tend not to trust caches placed that person. Actually, we found one yesterday in Spearfish, SD that we think should be archived/moved or something. Found cache on one end of the bridge, crackpipe and crack on the other. Now THAT'S a cache .. I sent an email to the cache owner and haven't heard back yet. the logs for that cache indicate someone found a stash of pot at the end of July. We're fairly sure what we found was NOT pot .. The logs also indicate the cache keeps disappearing. Wonder why?? We've encountered several on this week's trip where said, "Oh right like there's permission to place cache HERE." We've gained even more appreciation for SLAGA area caches after caching this week, When even *I* have a hard time coming up with a chatty, appreciative log -- you know they must be uninspired. Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: Know Future To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 9:11 PM Subject: [GeoStL] Archive this geocache? Last week Geo Jim described a tense encounter with an unfriendly landowner while hunting the Chapman's Ball (GCKBKH) geocache. I was surprised at the lack of comments in this forum. My question is this: given the possibility that future visitors could be subjected to verbal abuse and even physical violence, doesn't it seem prudent to consider archiving this cache? I'd like to hear your thoughts. Know Future August 7 by Geo Jim (949 found) "Pretty easy find and a nice peaceful place. Thanks for the cache! One of the local landowners came by and told me how he doesn't much care for hunters on his land, people drinking back there and "geo-catchers". I just nodded and said, "Yeah.." at the right times. And thought of "Deliverance" as I tried to hide my 'Geocaching 101' tee shirt.." Note: this doesn't begin to describe the incident -- KF JURA BAR QBBE PYBFRF NABGURE QBBE BCRAF