- See, all fixed up. Another happy customer. :-) Tim and Pam wrote: > - > First off I misunderstood the guide lines also. The way I understood it was > all waypoints had to be at least .01 miles apart not matter if it was a > multi or regular cache; sorry I didn't read it correctly. Secondly what I > was referring to where the series of caches that led you to a final cache at > the end. We have had a couple of those in St.Louis and I think they are a > good idea. Yes some of those caches took you to the back of a sign. Not much > interest in that but the whole idea was to get you to the final cache. > > Tim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Glenn > Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 8:05 AM > To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Additional Waypoints on Cache pages---Comments > (probably controversial) > > - > why do we want to do away with multi caches again? Because of Dan's > misunderstanding of the guidelines? Oh yea so we can have multi > caches where we can log each step. Neat idea. Use the signs, just sign > your name on the back of the sign. (no don't do that one) > > Dan is fixed up, multi's are back in the game. > > > > Tim and Pam wrote: > >> - >> Maybe do away with multi caches and instead set up a series so each WP is >> > a > >> cache. That would rule out using signs etc... Because there would not be a >> log book; unless a log book was hidden on or near the sign. >> >> Tim >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Griffin >> Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 7:32 AM >> To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Additional Waypoints on Cache pages---Comments >> (probably controversial) >> >> - >> Dan, I agree a lot with what you say.. I was going to start a cache at a >> trailhead in Lost Valley but the starting WP is too close to another >> starting point, which happens to be a small tag, so I couldn't do it. It >> would have been 200 feet from that tag but, my starting point would have >> been a micro. That bummed me out. >> >> On the other hand, It would be a nightmare for Glenn to try and keep up >> > with > >> WPs if they were a tag or a box or a sign, etc.... With the rule now, he >> > can > >> simply say it is too close regardless of what the WP is. >> >> Maybe they can introduce locationless, virtualized, WPs. Or... Better >> yet.... Have a waymark that leads to a real cache?!?!?! >> Could you do that and not follow the .10 rule? Hmmmm.... Possibilities... >> >> >> Mike >> "Guys, the red thingy is heading for the green thingy. I think we're the >> green thingy." >> - Guy, from Galaxy Quest... >> >> Tired of Spam?? >> Here's your solution.. >> See: http://www.spamarrest.com/affl?4001050 >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Dan Henke" <thunder_monk@xxxxxxxxx> >> To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 11:48 PM >> Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Additional Waypoints on Cache pages---Comments >> (probably controversial) >> >> >> - >> I just can't help myself here ...I know that I will be opening another can >> > > >> of worms and maybe start a firestorm discussion but hey the list has been >> too quiet lately anyway . >> >> I also do NOT understand what is the big deal of keeping WPs which have >> > > >> no intrinsic value other than a GoTO point in a multi to over .10 >> mile.....if a person wanted to place a multi with 5 WPs inside of a small >> park just to give a tour of that park pr spme other special reason and >> > then > >> place the cache somewhere else that DOES meet all cache guidelines or even >> > > >> within the same park it SHOULD be allowed.....This is just one more >> > example > >> of the powers that be at gc.com showing just how they can OVERLORD their >> decisions over all the rest of us little peon cachers. >> >> You know I have a solution to this ...just have the higher ups declare >> multi and puzzle caches to be no good like they did with virtuals and >> locationless then there is no longer a problem. Let's go back to straight >> traditional ONE stop caches and then there is no problem with getting too >> close. >> >> I have been playing with an idea here in Rolla to introduce new and >> experienced cachers to different types of Micros and the way they can be >> hidden.....I was going to create a multicache with micros as the WPs and >> then a final traditional cache at the end but with these rules I would be >> taking up most of the park and not allowing anyone else access to this >> > park > >> for the purpose of hiding a cache.....even though this park is one of the >> largest in Rolla. That would suck so I am abandoning the idea ....it is >> > just > >> not worth the effort and I can get 4 or 5 traditional one stop caches in >> there .....of course they will not teach anything and they will not >> highlight anything except the fact that your numbers (which people claim >> including the bigshots at gc.com don't really count for anything anyway) >> > go > >> up 4 or 5 caches. >> >> I apologize to Glen for the ranting as I know he is not making these >> decisions he is just carrying out the rules set down by others but I get >> > so > >> tired of a wonderful hobby and sport being continuously ruined by these >> > (my > >> opinion) idiotic rules and regulations. >> >> Sorry it has been a long day but this is just my humble opinion but I >> > dare > >> say it is shared by a LOT of the common everyday cachers out there who >> > just > >> want to enjoy a fun pasttime without having to put up with a lot of crap. >> >> Dan (who probably should have went to bed an hour ago) >> >> >> Glenn <GLNash@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> - >> Of course not. >> I could not make available every waypoint of everybody's multi caches. >> The best thing to do is actually go find the nearby caches if you are >> interested in placing a cache in a park. >> >> >> glenn >> >> Kirk Yates wrote: >> >> >>> - >>> Reply: Wednesday, August 30, 2006, 3:58:31 PM >>> >>> It is possible to get a file that has all the points that we need to >>> stay .1 mile away from to see if there's an area we can place a cache? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> - >>>> EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT questions. 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