- Maybe do away with multi caches and instead set up a series so each WP is a cache. That would rule out using signs etc... Because there would not be a log book; unless a log book was hidden on or near the sign. Tim -----Original Message----- From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Griffin Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 7:32 AM To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Additional Waypoints on Cache pages---Comments (probably controversial) - Dan, I agree a lot with what you say.. I was going to start a cache at a trailhead in Lost Valley but the starting WP is too close to another starting point, which happens to be a small tag, so I couldn't do it. It would have been 200 feet from that tag but, my starting point would have been a micro. That bummed me out. On the other hand, It would be a nightmare for Glenn to try and keep up with WPs if they were a tag or a box or a sign, etc.... With the rule now, he can simply say it is too close regardless of what the WP is. Maybe they can introduce locationless, virtualized, WPs. Or... Better yet.... Have a waymark that leads to a real cache?!?!?! Could you do that and not follow the .10 rule? Hmmmm.... Possibilities... Mike "Guys, the red thingy is heading for the green thingy. I think we're the green thingy." - Guy, from Galaxy Quest... Tired of Spam?? Here's your solution.. See: http://www.spamarrest.com/affl?4001050 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Henke" <thunder_monk@xxxxxxxxx> To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 11:48 PM Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Additional Waypoints on Cache pages---Comments (probably controversial) - I just can't help myself here ...I know that I will be opening another can of worms and maybe start a firestorm discussion but hey the list has been too quiet lately anyway . I also do NOT understand what is the big deal of keeping WPs which have no intrinsic value other than a GoTO point in a multi to over .10 mile.....if a person wanted to place a multi with 5 WPs inside of a small park just to give a tour of that park pr spme other special reason and then place the cache somewhere else that DOES meet all cache guidelines or even within the same park it SHOULD be allowed.....This is just one more example of the powers that be at gc.com showing just how they can OVERLORD their decisions over all the rest of us little peon cachers. You know I have a solution to this ...just have the higher ups declare multi and puzzle caches to be no good like they did with virtuals and locationless then there is no longer a problem. Let's go back to straight traditional ONE stop caches and then there is no problem with getting too close. I have been playing with an idea here in Rolla to introduce new and experienced cachers to different types of Micros and the way they can be hidden.....I was going to create a multicache with micros as the WPs and then a final traditional cache at the end but with these rules I would be taking up most of the park and not allowing anyone else access to this park for the purpose of hiding a cache.....even though this park is one of the largest in Rolla. That would suck so I am abandoning the idea ....it is just not worth the effort and I can get 4 or 5 traditional one stop caches in there .....of course they will not teach anything and they will not highlight anything except the fact that your numbers (which people claim including the bigshots at gc.com don't really count for anything anyway) go up 4 or 5 caches. I apologize to Glen for the ranting as I know he is not making these decisions he is just carrying out the rules set down by others but I get so tired of a wonderful hobby and sport being continuously ruined by these (my opinion) idiotic rules and regulations. Sorry it has been a long day but this is just my humble opinion but I dare say it is shared by a LOT of the common everyday cachers out there who just want to enjoy a fun pasttime without having to put up with a lot of crap. Dan (who probably should have went to bed an hour ago) Glenn <GLNash@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: - Of course not. I could not make available every waypoint of everybody's multi caches. The best thing to do is actually go find the nearby caches if you are interested in placing a cache in a park. glenn Kirk Yates wrote: > - > Reply: Wednesday, August 30, 2006, 3:58:31 PM > > It is possible to get a file that has all the points that we need to > stay .1 mile away from to see if there's an area we can place a cache? > > >> - >> EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT questions. Reading the guidelines for cache >> saturation, it becomes almost clear. >> > > > > > **************************************** > For List Info or To make _ANY_ changes, including unsubscribing from this > list, click -----> //www.freelists.org/list/geocaching > Missouri Caches Scheduled to be Archived http://tinyurl.com/87cqw > > > **************************************** For List Info or To make _ANY_ changes, including unsubscribing from this list, click -----> //www.freelists.org/list/geocaching Missouri Caches Scheduled to be Archived http://tinyurl.com/87cqw --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? 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