[GeoStL] Re: A proper salute

  • From: "Barramus" <barramus@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 17:22:46 -0600

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Two wrongs don't.........
I think it is totally inappropriate to discuss politics here, no matter
what political party you believe in.

Barramus
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric & Dayna East" <lichanura@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 4:53 PM
Subject: [GeoStL] Re: A proper salute


> -
> You tell 'em Dru! I agree with you 100%
>
> Eric
>
> SSG Dru C Reeves wrote:
>
> > -
> > I have seen several caches that were placed by a member of SLAGA that
> > does not speak very highly of President Bush. Is that inappropriate
> > also?
> > I don't care what you do in life, subjects like these will come up from
> > time to time. If they offend you, so what. I have found caches placed
> > by this SLAGA member and have NEVER mentioned anything about his
> > portrayal of President Bush. The wonderful thing about this country is
> > we have a RIGHT to say how we feel about a subject. Speaking for myself
> > as a member of the Armed Forces, that is the reason I sacrifice over a
> > month away from my family each year. I don't do it for the money. I
> > would do it for free if I had to.
> > Enough said, I'll end the subject NOW.
> >
> > SSG Dru C Reeves
> > USAR Insructor
> >   9th BN (QM) 95th DIV (IT)
> > On Wednesday, February 12, 2003, at 10:16 AM, Barbara Hunt wrote:
> >
> > > -
> > > ...or it could just be that they were told to salute that way.
> > >
> > > In any case, unless the President is Geocaching, I don't find this
> > > appropriate to post on this list.
> > >
> > >
> > >> From: "Dan Eubanks" <deubanks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> Reply-To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> Subject: [GeoStL] A proper salute
> > >> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 10:05:18 -0600
> > >>
> > >> -
> > >> Whether you do or do not like George W. Bush as our President, this
> > >> message reveals some interesting plateau's he has reached.
> > >>
> > >> First, an observation. Have you noticed a difference in the salute
> > >> given
> > >> by our military men and women as President Bush walks by? Most folks
> > >> would not notice anything, but those of us who have served in the
> > >> military see it right away.
> > >>
> > >> Next time pay close attention when President Bush leaves his
> > >> helicopter
> > >> or Air Force One, the honor guards salute and face him as he
> > >> disembarks,
> > >> then turn their faces towards him as he passes by. They continue to
> > >> salute his back as he walks away. This kind of salute has not been
> > >> seen
> > >> in the previous eight years, though it is customary courtesy to the
> > >> Commander-in-Chief. You see, soldiers aren't required to turn and
face
> > >> the President as they salute. They are not required to salute his
> > >> back.
> > >> They are only required to salute. They can remain face-forward the
> > >> entire time. And that is what they did during the previous
> > >> administration. Our soldiers were forced to obey his orders, but they
> > >> were not forced to respect him. From their salutes, we can surmise
> > >> that
> > >> they did not.
> > >>
> > >> Why is such respect afforded to President Bush? He doesn't even know
> > >> how
> > >> to bite his lower lip and not get teary-eyed whenever he speaks!
> > >>
> > >> The following incident from Major General Van Antwerp may give us an
> > >> insight. Gen. Antwerp is president of the Officers' Christian
> > >> Fellowship. He lost nearly all his staff when the Pentagon was
> > >> attacked
> > >> September 11. His executive officer LTC Brian Birdwell was badly
> > >> burned
> > >> and in the hospital when President Bush visited him. Our President
> > >> spent
> > >> time and prayed with Brian. As he was getting ready to leave, he went
> > >> to
> > >> the foot of Brian's bed and saluted. He held his salute until Brian
> > >> was
> > >> able to raise his burned and bandaged arm, ever so slowly, in return.
> > >> The Commander-in-Chief almost never initiates a salute, except in the
> > >> case of a Congressional Medal of Honor winner. The injured soldier
did
> > >> not have to return the salute. But he did, out of respect to his
> > >> President ... a Soldiers' President.
> > >>
> > >> Congressman JC Watts (R. Oklahoma) said, "Character is doing the
right
> > >> thing when nobody is looking," (My favorite quote of all time). The
> > >> nation and world learned some of what our last President did when
> > >> nobody
> > >> was looking; that President has been disbarred, the worst disgrace
> > >> (other than imprisonment) to a lawyer. CNN will have a difficult time
> > >> shining his or his wife's tarnished images.
> > >>
> > >> In this time of war and danger, I am so grateful to have a President
> > >> whom the soldiers salute -- fully. On Special Report with Brit Hume,
> > >> at
> > >> the close of the show when they normally have some funny video clip,
> > >> they showed President Bush and the First Lady on their way to Maine
to
> > >> leave for Camp David for the weekend.
> > >> As the video starts, the First Lady is leading the way into the
> > >> helicopter with the spaniel dog on the leash, and the president is
> > >> right
> > >> behind her with the Scotty on the leash. As the First Lady entered
the
> > >> chopper, the Marine at the gangway saluted and held his salute. The
> > >> Scottie the president was walking decided it wanted to sit right when
> > >> he
> > >> got to the steps. The president pulled on its leash, but the stubborn
> > >> Scottie persisted in sitting. The president bent down and scooped up
> > >> the
> > >> pooch and entered Marine One. After he entered, the Marine cut his
> > >> salute and returned to the position of attention. Moments later the
> > >> President reemerged from the helicopter and out onto the steps. The
> > >> Marine was standing at attention, head and eyes straight ahead. The
> > >> President leaned over and tapped him on the left arm. The startled
> > >> Marine turned his body toward the President and received his returned
> > >> salute!
> > >>
> > >> I was so impressed by this true act of respect for our military
people
> > >> by our President! He really does get it. Most any other person of his
> > >> stature would have just continued his journey, disregarding the
> > >> neglected return salute. Not George W. Bush. He is earning the
respect
> > >> of the military community, not expecting it -- as most have and
would.
> > >>
> > >> President George W. Bush; the man who admitted to having a drinking
> > >> problem in younger years, and whose happy-go-lucky lifestyle led him
> > >> to
> > >> mediocre grades in college and an ill-fated oil venture. Who mangled
> > >> syntax, and whose speaking miss-steps became known as "Bushisms." He
> > >> came within a hair's breadth of losing the election in November. Bush
> > >> named Jesus Christ as Lord of his life on public TV. Not an Oblique
> > >> reference to being "born-again" or having a "life change." He
actually
> > >> said the un-PC-like phrase, "Jesus Christ!"
> > >>
> > >> On September 11, he was thrust into a position only known by the
likes
> > >> of Roosevelt, Churchill, Lincoln, and Washington. The weight of the
> > >> world was on his shoulders, and the responsibility of a generation
was
> > >> on his soul. So President George W. Bush walked to his seat at the
> > >> front
> > >> of the National Cathedral just three days after two of the most
> > >> impressive symbols of American capitalism and prosperity virtually
> > >> evaporated.
> > >>
> > >> When the history of this time is written, it will be acknowledged by
> > >> friend and foe alike that President George W. Bush came of age in
that
> > >> cathedral and lifted a nation off its knees. In what was one of the
> > >> most
> > >> impressive exhibitions of self-control in presidential history,
> > >> President George W. Bush was able to deliver his remarks without
> > >> losing
> > >> his resolve, focus, or confidence. God's hand, which guided him
> > >> through
> > >> that sliver-thin election, now rested fully on him. As he walked back
> > >> to
> > >> his seat, the camera angle was appropriate. He was virtually alone in
> > >> the scene, alone in that massive place with God, just him and the
> > >> Lord.
> > >>
> > >> Back at his seat, George H. Bush reached over and took his son's
hand.
> > >> In that gesture his father seemed to say, "I wish I could do this for
> > >> you, son, but I can't. You have to do this on your own."
> > >>
> > >> President George W. Bush squeezed back and gave him a look of peace
> > >> that
> > >> said, "I don't have to do it alone, Dad. I've got Help."
> > >>
> > >> What a blessing to have a professing Christian as President. Please
> > >> take
> > >> a moment after you read this to "pray for him." He truly does have
the
> > >> weight of the world on his shoulders. Pray that God will sustain him
> > >> and
> > >> give him wisdom and discernment in his decisions.
> > >>
> > >> Pray for his protection and that of his family.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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