- Two wrongs don't......... I think it is totally inappropriate to discuss politics here, no matter what political party you believe in. Barramus N 38° 25.081' W 90° 42.823' ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric & Dayna East" <lichanura@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 4:53 PM Subject: [GeoStL] Re: A proper salute > - > You tell 'em Dru! I agree with you 100% > > Eric > > SSG Dru C Reeves wrote: > > > - > > I have seen several caches that were placed by a member of SLAGA that > > does not speak very highly of President Bush. Is that inappropriate > > also? > > I don't care what you do in life, subjects like these will come up from > > time to time. If they offend you, so what. I have found caches placed > > by this SLAGA member and have NEVER mentioned anything about his > > portrayal of President Bush. The wonderful thing about this country is > > we have a RIGHT to say how we feel about a subject. Speaking for myself > > as a member of the Armed Forces, that is the reason I sacrifice over a > > month away from my family each year. I don't do it for the money. I > > would do it for free if I had to. > > Enough said, I'll end the subject NOW. > > > > SSG Dru C Reeves > > USAR Insructor > > 9th BN (QM) 95th DIV (IT) > > On Wednesday, February 12, 2003, at 10:16 AM, Barbara Hunt wrote: > > > > > - > > > ...or it could just be that they were told to salute that way. > > > > > > In any case, unless the President is Geocaching, I don't find this > > > appropriate to post on this list. > > > > > > > > >> From: "Dan Eubanks" <deubanks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >> Reply-To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >> To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >> Subject: [GeoStL] A proper salute > > >> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 10:05:18 -0600 > > >> > > >> - > > >> Whether you do or do not like George W. Bush as our President, this > > >> message reveals some interesting plateau's he has reached. > > >> > > >> First, an observation. Have you noticed a difference in the salute > > >> given > > >> by our military men and women as President Bush walks by? Most folks > > >> would not notice anything, but those of us who have served in the > > >> military see it right away. > > >> > > >> Next time pay close attention when President Bush leaves his > > >> helicopter > > >> or Air Force One, the honor guards salute and face him as he > > >> disembarks, > > >> then turn their faces towards him as he passes by. They continue to > > >> salute his back as he walks away. This kind of salute has not been > > >> seen > > >> in the previous eight years, though it is customary courtesy to the > > >> Commander-in-Chief. You see, soldiers aren't required to turn and face > > >> the President as they salute. They are not required to salute his > > >> back. > > >> They are only required to salute. They can remain face-forward the > > >> entire time. And that is what they did during the previous > > >> administration. Our soldiers were forced to obey his orders, but they > > >> were not forced to respect him. From their salutes, we can surmise > > >> that > > >> they did not. > > >> > > >> Why is such respect afforded to President Bush? He doesn't even know > > >> how > > >> to bite his lower lip and not get teary-eyed whenever he speaks! > > >> > > >> The following incident from Major General Van Antwerp may give us an > > >> insight. Gen. Antwerp is president of the Officers' Christian > > >> Fellowship. He lost nearly all his staff when the Pentagon was > > >> attacked > > >> September 11. His executive officer LTC Brian Birdwell was badly > > >> burned > > >> and in the hospital when President Bush visited him. Our President > > >> spent > > >> time and prayed with Brian. As he was getting ready to leave, he went > > >> to > > >> the foot of Brian's bed and saluted. He held his salute until Brian > > >> was > > >> able to raise his burned and bandaged arm, ever so slowly, in return. > > >> The Commander-in-Chief almost never initiates a salute, except in the > > >> case of a Congressional Medal of Honor winner. The injured soldier did > > >> not have to return the salute. But he did, out of respect to his > > >> President ... a Soldiers' President. > > >> > > >> Congressman JC Watts (R. Oklahoma) said, "Character is doing the right > > >> thing when nobody is looking," (My favorite quote of all time). The > > >> nation and world learned some of what our last President did when > > >> nobody > > >> was looking; that President has been disbarred, the worst disgrace > > >> (other than imprisonment) to a lawyer. CNN will have a difficult time > > >> shining his or his wife's tarnished images. > > >> > > >> In this time of war and danger, I am so grateful to have a President > > >> whom the soldiers salute -- fully. On Special Report with Brit Hume, > > >> at > > >> the close of the show when they normally have some funny video clip, > > >> they showed President Bush and the First Lady on their way to Maine to > > >> leave for Camp David for the weekend. > > >> As the video starts, the First Lady is leading the way into the > > >> helicopter with the spaniel dog on the leash, and the president is > > >> right > > >> behind her with the Scotty on the leash. As the First Lady entered the > > >> chopper, the Marine at the gangway saluted and held his salute. The > > >> Scottie the president was walking decided it wanted to sit right when > > >> he > > >> got to the steps. The president pulled on its leash, but the stubborn > > >> Scottie persisted in sitting. The president bent down and scooped up > > >> the > > >> pooch and entered Marine One. After he entered, the Marine cut his > > >> salute and returned to the position of attention. Moments later the > > >> President reemerged from the helicopter and out onto the steps. The > > >> Marine was standing at attention, head and eyes straight ahead. The > > >> President leaned over and tapped him on the left arm. The startled > > >> Marine turned his body toward the President and received his returned > > >> salute! > > >> > > >> I was so impressed by this true act of respect for our military people > > >> by our President! He really does get it. Most any other person of his > > >> stature would have just continued his journey, disregarding the > > >> neglected return salute. Not George W. Bush. He is earning the respect > > >> of the military community, not expecting it -- as most have and would. > > >> > > >> President George W. Bush; the man who admitted to having a drinking > > >> problem in younger years, and whose happy-go-lucky lifestyle led him > > >> to > > >> mediocre grades in college and an ill-fated oil venture. Who mangled > > >> syntax, and whose speaking miss-steps became known as "Bushisms." He > > >> came within a hair's breadth of losing the election in November. Bush > > >> named Jesus Christ as Lord of his life on public TV. Not an Oblique > > >> reference to being "born-again" or having a "life change." He actually > > >> said the un-PC-like phrase, "Jesus Christ!" > > >> > > >> On September 11, he was thrust into a position only known by the likes > > >> of Roosevelt, Churchill, Lincoln, and Washington. The weight of the > > >> world was on his shoulders, and the responsibility of a generation was > > >> on his soul. So President George W. Bush walked to his seat at the > > >> front > > >> of the National Cathedral just three days after two of the most > > >> impressive symbols of American capitalism and prosperity virtually > > >> evaporated. > > >> > > >> When the history of this time is written, it will be acknowledged by > > >> friend and foe alike that President George W. Bush came of age in that > > >> cathedral and lifted a nation off its knees. In what was one of the > > >> most > > >> impressive exhibitions of self-control in presidential history, > > >> President George W. Bush was able to deliver his remarks without > > >> losing > > >> his resolve, focus, or confidence. God's hand, which guided him > > >> through > > >> that sliver-thin election, now rested fully on him. As he walked back > > >> to > > >> his seat, the camera angle was appropriate. He was virtually alone in > > >> the scene, alone in that massive place with God, just him and the > > >> Lord. > > >> > > >> Back at his seat, George H. Bush reached over and took his son's hand. > > >> In that gesture his father seemed to say, "I wish I could do this for > > >> you, son, but I can't. You have to do this on your own." > > >> > > >> President George W. Bush squeezed back and gave him a look of peace > > >> that > > >> said, "I don't have to do it alone, Dad. I've got Help." > > >> > > >> What a blessing to have a professing Christian as President. Please > > >> take > > >> a moment after you read this to "pray for him." He truly does have the > > >> weight of the world on his shoulders. Pray that God will sustain him > > >> and > > >> give him wisdom and discernment in his decisions. > > >> > > >> Pray for his protection and that of his family. > > >> > > >> > > >> ********************************************************************** > > >> ****** > > >> Our WebPage! 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