[gender-it] Re: [GCA] Ideas and Questions about the activist meeting at Digitalesin Brussels soon

  • From: libby <libbylibby@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: genderchangers list <gca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,imc women list <imc-women@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,Gender-IT list <gender-it@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 12:46:03 +0100

Hello Everybody,

The event is only a week away and i aslo still have some questions.
It is indeed time to set some topics and Anna's imput is very 
interesting, so is the addition Nathalie made on the digitales wiki  

I would like to know who will be doing the Indymedia workshops, i can do 
one in both Frenc and Dutch, i know Anna could do one in French and 
Clara in Dutch, Marthe is willing to hepl out doing a workshop and 
Marijuna offerd to support she'd have to do it with someone else because 
she can only speak Italian and English. Also i've no idea how many 
people are exactly needed to do workshops.

I also would appreciate some more feedback on the result of  a little 
brainstorm we did on how to tackle the workshops  

I don't think the list of topics is complete and there are still links 
to be added.

I would also appreciate some input from the people doing workshops for 
other initiatives besides indymedia, what they think about the concept 
of  interactive workshops starting from the needs and questions of the 
target group.


clara wrote:

> Dear Anna,
> thanks a lot for this long mail.
> For me this whole event still remains rather unclear and that's why I 
> am kind of slow in reacting on it.
> I am still not clear for example who the actual traget group is. Will 
> it be mainly (french speaking) Belgium women who take part in the 
> actual programme? And we use it for a brainstorming session outside 
> the official programme? Are we now supposed to take over the 
> organisation of the Indymedia workshop?
> ----------------------------
> I liked the points that Anna raised as issues, and I would be glad to 
> spend some hours talking about them.
> Besides being interested in the specific situation of individual women 
> in their specific groups, I would like t find out whether there are 
> patterns or situations that tend to come up. What is are the 
> difference between mixed groups that have little or no gender issues, 
> and other that display everything feminists have been fighting against 
> for ages?
> I would like to find out how to get more and younger women involved 
> when I am at the same time feel like running against brickwalls. Can I 
> actually drag other women in that? Can I change things if I don't?
> And as it keeps coming up again and again: how about women.indy as a 
> topic IMCs.
> So this are the top three issues on my list,
> love and solidarity,
> Clara
>> Some questions that I would like to explore:
>>    * How about an update of the questionnaire Blue Pi send around when
>> she did that famous survey on gender  problems within indymedia? I will
>> add the questions below, and you can find the result from the survey in
>> november '01 here: http://germany.indymedia.org/2002/01/13720.shtml
>> In Amsterdam I got some very angry replys during the indymedia panel
>> when I referred to her findings that in indymedia there are  less women
>> than in other activist groups as well as other tech environments. How
>> are your experiences? What has changed, and why? Has it really?
>>    * I am noticing in several IMC's around me (mainly central Europe)
>> that the collectives are really quite young but there are some elder
>> (mid-30s and above; yes, that is elder in indymedia ;) )women, and I'm
>> noticing that more and more of us are leaving our collectives. I'm
>> wondering about the similarities in this and I'd like to share the
>> experiences. See my own statement about why I left IMC Germany:
>> http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/private/imc-women/2003-May/000712.html. 
>> For those of you who'd like to read it and who are not subscribed to 
>> imc-women please send me an email and I'll forward it to you.
>>    * IMC  Germany has recently decided to ask someone to leave the
>> collective and to unsubscribe from the lists. This person has been in
>> conflict also with the imc-women's list one and a half years ago. This
>> is not about blatant sexism, but rather about general ways of
>> interaction. IMC Germany has spend a lot of time discussing and actually
>> fighting and has produced a remarkable statement about minorities, male
>> dominance and why they think they would like to not only be attracting
>> " a monoculture of male techno-freaks in their 20s who are quick-witted
>> and thick-skinned rather than empathetic and thoughtful", "where only
>> the hardest and loudest prevail". Read the whole text in a rough and not
>> yet finished translation into English on the bottom of this page:
>> http://translations.indymedia.org/Translations/1070228122/index_html.
>> This document was written mainly because Linn, who unfortunately can't
>> come to Brussels (?), just didn't give up and fought for Indymedia to be
>> a place for her, too.
>> It offers a lot to talk about since the situation of women and the
>> general attitude in our media activist group seem to not be related but
>> indeed they are. And this is not because women always need to have a
>> cozy and loving atmosphere. I think we prefer a working environment that
>> can be tough but that can also open up. I think the point is
>> exclusiveness vs. inclusiveness.
>>    * I think we need some ideas for some practical ideas. What will we
>> do? Is it the Women-in-independent-media-summer camp?
>> Women.indymedia.org? A documentary about women in different sections of
>> activism? (PGA women have published a wonderful booklet like that). ...?
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