The new IRC channel will be very helpful for real time collaboration, but I wonder if the truecrypt.ch site would be a better place for the developers to talk than this list. To their credit, the truecrypt.ch guys have not kicked me off their forum yet, even though I have basically called them incompetent to run the fork, which they are from a developer point of view. I am somewhat concerned that maybe they just haven't figured out how to kick me off yet :-) So long as they don't hamper our communication, would it be best to use their forum for detailed discussions of the code, or should we do it here? Bill