Hmm. I drive past these guys everyday on the way to work. Can't see whether its commercial / what the price it costs - But drop them an email and see what they say. They're very approachable http://www.torcinteractive.com/middleware.htm C -----Original Message----- From: gameprogrammer-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gameprogrammer-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kevin Jenkins Sent: 15 December 2005 15:21 To: gameprogrammer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gameprogrammer] Re: OpenGL reality check. On a related note, I'm looking for a graphics engine that is perferably open source for licensed users, supports displacement, specular, and emmissive mapping, and comes with a particle editor, model viewer, and other game-level tools. Commercial is fine as long as it is under 50K. --------------------- To unsubscribe go to http://gameprogrammer.com/mailinglist.html --------------------- To unsubscribe go to http://gameprogrammer.com/mailinglist.html