definitely not always
:)
On Apr 12, 2017, at 5:06 AM, BEVERLY VOTH <beverlyvoth@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
You are correct, as always, Uncle Joel! Standard submits work very well.
beverly
On Apr 12, 2017, at 8:00 AM, Joel Shapiro <info@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:info@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
i.e. Sometimes people want Ajax, or 1-page apps, or (whatever), just because
they’re currently trendy… and sometimes I think they don’t necessarily
improve the user’s experience. I was just trying to give a bit of pause to
the “gotta have X” mindset — although I recognize that that may not be
Troy’s case in this instance.
or (whatever) ;-)
On Apr 12, 2017, at 4:55 AM, Joel Shapiro <info@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:info@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Yeah, I was just trying to suggest that since Troy knows how to do standard
form submits and doesn’t have the time to learn Ajax-y things, that he
might be able to get close to the “feel” that he’s looking for just by
modifying the UI (& perhaps his expectations :-P )
-Joel
On Apr 12, 2017, at 4:49 AM, BEVERLY VOTH <beverlyvoth@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:beverlyvoth@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Well, essentially the AJAX does that (submits and does edit after the
initial new), but 'unseen' so that only parts of the page get redrawn.
Another method that I've used is to have hidden divs so that the entire
form is "on" the page, but revealed as needed. But that depends on the
length of the form whether this is efficient. Most used by me for
'dynamic' forms, for example, where answering "yes" to "A" reveals "A1",
"A2", etc. Or answering "no" to "A", skips "B", "D" and "E" and shows only
"C" next. That's CSS and JavaScript and fairly easy (no jQuery or other
stuff needed)
beverly
On Apr 12, 2017, at 6:46 AM, Joel Shapiro <info@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:info@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi Troy
If you haven’t already, you might try searching for “web form builder”
(or “html5 form builder”, etc.). Some of the results will be for hosted
solutions (submissions go through their servers), but there should be
some that will just help you create more “modern-looking” forms and then
let you copy the generated html (w/ or w/o css &/or javascript).
On a separate note, if you’re looking for something (per your original
email) "with intermediate portions of data saved and acted on”, why is it
important that it be "all without reloading the page”? If you’re
envisioning some kind of “Next” buttons in your interface, could they
each just be actual Submit buttons, creating or editing records
throughout the process?
Best,
-Joel
On Apr 11, 2017, at 1:51 PM, Troy Meyers <tcmeyers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:tcmeyers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Thanks Chris and Bev!
I've checked these out. I'm not a complete newbie to JavaScript, I've
written some of my own for form validation and enough to use a few
jQuery-based tricks, but still there is a big learning curve ahead for
me just to get a animated, single-page, AJAX-based step by step
interview form up and running.
If it were a case where I'd be designing these a whole lot, the time
spent would be well worth it, but unlike you guys who are pros, and I
think similarly to Jon, I'm just a do-it-yourselfer with just one or two
websites, and my plate is already full with the real work of the company
(propagating orchids) and the FileMaker end of information gathering of
the research we are doing.
The jargon is so deep at this point that I don't even know how to find
what I need, or know if I'm already looking at it!
I'm leaning toward getting someone who already knows what they are doing
to design a skeleton of that kind of interface so that I can flesh it
out with what I already know how to do well.
Budget is a big problem (which is why I have to wear many hats here) so
I don't know if getting something like that designed is within our
means, though.
Any suggestions about who could do such a thing? Or, who has done such a
thing that I could tap for expertise? Or a template.
-Troy
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