Hi everyone! Wilson from Chile here
I make a question to RMS related to the FSF, in his thinking if we lost the
FSF would have a big lost, so is necessary to fight to avoid lost it, I
think I'm agree with that point.
By other way I'm absolutely agree with the path of this group and I will do
my best in here.
I think the best way to go is to make this group stronger and at the same
time be part of the FSF to ensure it will not change.
I think we also need to fight for it.
If not, at least we can let them know they are changing for bad and if they
don't fix their path we also can invite everyone who really want to fight
for the freedom to join to this group.
Just in my humble opinion.
Regards!
El lun., 30 sept. 2019 a las 2:42, deedend (<deedend@xxxxxxxxxxx>) escribió:
Hi all, Daniele from Australia here (but actually Italian)
I believe that our first and main attempt should be, instead of a fork, to
try to do propaganda inside (and outside) the FSF about having back
Stallman, or if this doesn't work, try to convince them to choose the new
president according the original principle of FSF, selected for their
technical and ethical merits (purely referred to the free software) instead
of some sort of racial, gender and national point of view (1).
To be totally clear, I'm not against those noble ideals, which I embrace
totally, but the Foundation needs a strong and recognized leader (like
RMS), and limiting the research field to those that belong to a restricted
category risks to weaken the whole organisation.
I'm of the idea that we need to focus our effort to improve the existing
FSF instead of creating an unnecessary fork.
Cheers
(1)
https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/open-letter-free-software-foundation-board-directors
On 30 Sep 2019 3:00 p.m., Emilio Lo Prete <emilioloprete@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi fellow FSFORCERS!
I'm glad to see there is a response on the events that pertain to RMS.
I think that we need to think lisp here, as RMS would, and (define (what
we think software freedom is))
And reduce it "in force" to a set of primitives we could use to be "The
Infantry of Software Freedom".
Therefore if this new organization is to serve a role, it should be only
*for the promotion of free software*.
1) I propose starting by creating a *_MANIFESTO_*, a digital declaration
of
software freedom.
2) We do need a logo, that should be IMO quite similar to the FSF logo,
but in Black and White, as the original lisp machine colors.
3) We do need a website.
4) We do need allies. Off the top of my head I'm thinking about Ludovic
Cortes (the guy behind Guix and GuixSD) and maybe Dr. Moglen.
5) We need a place to meet, I'd say f-node and #fsforce (im already
there @elp). It would make things easier to schedule a meeting on UTC
time. Until a new proper place could be used. So we can see how many we
are and where are we located, our talents and what contribution can each
make.
_LAST BUT NOT LEAST_
Stallman should be aware this fork exists.
While I think this is of crucial importance, he has stated that he
remains as head of the GNU project which is great, but I'd like to hear
his opinion about us, maybe some guidance too, and if given the case a
'blessing of sorts'.
*I volunteer* for writing which is what I mostly do, and we have all the
information already layed out. My question is: Are we the FSF that ought
to have been? In that case we should by country start evangelizing as
Stallman would have. But baby steps are required.
In any case, I hope meeting you all if you agree, at the #fsforce on
freenode.
From Argentina with love,
Emilio
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