[fruityloops] Re: Using midi controlers with FL

  • From: "Mark Sargent" <mhsargent@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: fruityloops@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 11:59:24 +0000

hello people, I have got the following:

doepfer pocket dial (www.doepfer.de) - which has "non jump" knobs for 
controlling multiple parameters... also just in:

evolution uc 33 (www.evolution.co.uk), which gives me a mixing situation via 

i haven't extensively used them with FLs, but use them with Ableton Live.... 
they're both great...

Additionally, there's a great novation keyboard/controller with touchpad and 
joystick that's not really that expensive considering the features:  

if you need a midi keyboard as well then nothing else beats this baby...

hope this helps!


>From: Andrew Ebling <andyebling@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: fruityloops@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: fruityloops@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [fruityloops] Re: Using midi controlers with FL
>Date: 12 Mar 2003 11:41:01 +0000
>Hi Tim,
>Good post :)...
>On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 11:14, Tim Jenkins wrote:
> > I am at a point where I am finding it increasingly tedious to edit
> > parameters with a mouse and wish to use a controller of some kind?
> >
> > I do have Roland PC160 controller keyboard but to be honest that's best 
> > used for inputting note data and recording melody's as it only has one
> > slider on it. I am keen to edit more than one parameter on the fly at 
> > same time i.e. filter cuts and maybe resonance at the same time. I don't
> > really want another keyboard so am looking at general midi controllers.
> > (such as the evolution uc16, spin doctor, control freak or fat boy ??)
> >
> > So my questions are:
> >
> > What midi controllers are anybody using with FL and with how much 
>success ?
> > Is it possible to use such control boxes as mentioned inside FL ??
> > with multiple edits simultaneously ??
>Basically, any MIDI controller should work.
>USB ones are becoming popular, but I would be hesitant to buy such a
>beast - you can't hook it up to standard MIDI gear and I might want to
>do that one day.  In other words, if you want flexibility, getting one
>with a MIDI output can make sense, especially if you have a spare MIDI
>interface you can dedicate to it.
>Although I don't own a dedicated controller, I do have a bass station
>which transmits some of its knob positions over MIDI, so I use that.
>Its a simple matter of right clicking on the control, selecting "Link to
>controller" and then tweaking the knob you want to link to it - fruity
>takes care of the rest.  You can set up as many controllers as you like
>this way and use them simultaneously.
>I've been thinking about getting a dedicated controller too - the hands
>on feel really takes softsynths to another level.  That combined with
>FLStudio live mode is a receipy for a serious amount of fun ;-).  I'd
>probably be looking into getting a controller keyboard that also
>supported aftertouch as well as assignable control knobs.  Since my
>setup is pretty cramped, finding somewhere to put another box in easy
>reach is no small task - so having the control knobs built into the
>keyboard itself would be a plus.
>Unfortunately, it seems that many of the commercially available units
>are rather over-priced for what they are and I don't like the idea of
>spending lots of cash on something that doesn't make any sound!  Since
>I've done electronics as a hobby before (although studying it a uni
>rather spoilt the appeal), I'm looking at building my own using the
>refecence designs at http://www.ucapps.de.  They currently have a next
>generation project in progress that looks very interesting indeed, so
>I'll probably wait for that to get closer to completion before making a
>If you have the experience/knowhow/patience to build your own, it
>appears to be possible to build a fully automated control surface (so
>the controls actually move in realtime to show the programmed events)
>for about the price of a non-automated one.  I propose to take a modular
>approach - I'll start off with 32 automated faders with a pan control
>for each, then add 4x32 assignable knobs per channel at a time.  This
>control surface will double up as a mixing surface, as well as hands on
>EQ for mastering etc and of course, for real time synth edits.
>Have you considered the possibility of using a controller box for mixing
>as well?
>Wow, how did that turn into such a long post?!  Hope there is some
>useful information in amongst the waffle ;-).

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