[frgeek-michiana] Re: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS installs
- From: Tony Germano <tony_germano@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 14:59:02 -0500
I started reading about this yesterday and found some links that might be
helpful.
I think you'll want to use the debmirror
(https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Debmirror) utility as it gives you finer
control over rsync. You can easily specify which release you want (lucid) and
which architecture (i386) instead of downloading everything (200+ GB) with
rsync. I think debmirror still uses rsync behind the scenes.
As far as the architectures go, the names are a bit misleading and I think
there is some confusion. i386 is the 32-bit version and amd64 is the 64-bit
version. i386 should work on any processor that meets our minimum specs. amd64
will work on both amd and intel 64-bit processors, but I don't think we get
many if any of those in. The i386 version will still run on 64-bit processors
(even amd ones,) regardless.
The way that I was envisioning it to work would be to use debmirror on a
machine at home that would always have the current files. Those files would be
rsynced to a portable hard drive periodically. That hard drive would then be
rsynced to a mirror running on the warehouse server. That way we would not be
dependent on the media used to transfer, and if someone left it at home it
wouldn't be a big deal.
I haven't fully read this yet
(https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet) but I believe we
could use our mirrored repositories for both updating already loaded boxes
(like from Live CDs) and doing network based installs. This is different than
network cloning as it still uses the debian installer to acquire and install
individual packages. We would just be grabbing them from the local mirror
rather than an online mirror over the internet like a default network install.
Tony
From: tbrown@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [frgeek-michiana] Re: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS installs
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 16:46:58 -0500
Thanks. I think I have a spare 8GB USB
stick in the office.
Tom --
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14:58
To: frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [frgeek-michiana] Re:
Ubuntu 10.04 LTS installs
In looking up Ubuntu 10.04 LTS DVD, it was 4.1g so that would be your
baseline...
Richard
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 1:54 PM, Tom Brown <tbrown@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I am going to begin constructing our local repository this week.
I’ll download the base 10.04 LTS repos to a machine at work or home then add
other sources (codecs, drivers) as we determine which are safe to use and won’t
break 10.04 LTS. The repos will be housed on either a USB stick or a portable
HD depending on storage requirements.
Tom --
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Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010
10:27
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Subject: [frgeek-michiana] Re:
Ubuntu 10.04 LTS installs
As far as
the codecs and what not goes, I believe mediubuntu has all of that included,
and if I am thinking correctly you can add sources from the cd, maybe that would
be the cheapest, easiest solution as far as codecs are concerned.
Chuq from my DROID.
-----Original message-----
From: Mike Cook <mikecook@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Mon, Dec 6, 2010 15:03:40 GMT+00:00
Subject: [frgeek-michiana] Re: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS installs
Once we set up a
local repository the codec/driver problem will be solved. As to updating I
don't really think that is necessary so long as our repository is fairly up to
date. I don't plan on having many complete systems sitting on the shelf until
we have orders for them. That will eliminate a lot of problems with out of date
systems. We still have some Freeboxes loaded with VL and some are not even the
latest version of VL.
Open Range's WiMax service looks pretty good
and could be another option but again is pretty expensive for only 12-15 hours
of use per month.
I wouldn't think that tethered cellphone use would be economical unless one of
us already was using it and was willing to let Free Geek use some of their
quite limited data allocation. I would not expect or encourage anyone to go
down this path.
I think that Internet access would be beneficial but at the moment there are
too few hours available for me to work on it much. I think our immediate needs
are for storage and marketing.
Mike
-----Original
Message-----
From: Phil Goldbach
Sent: Dec 5, 2010 11:30 PM
To: frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [frgeek-michiana] Re: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS installs
The point in updating is that Ubuntu 10.04 LTS doesn't have the
codecs and/or drivers for audio and printers. That aside, then yes there is
no reason to update.
On the internet subject, there is another possibility: Open Range.
Supposed to be internet service based on "4G". Their simple plan:
Highest Speed Internet for only $38.95/mo. Internet speeds perfect for high
bandwidth uses (eg streaming video, downloading large files, video
conferencing). Modem leasing fee included. Internet includes free WiFi and up
to 8 email accounts. Free activation and 30 day free trial.
Just merely a suggestion, but it would seem that we've decided on not getting
internet service for the time being. It was also suggested that we could use
my phone and wifi tethering to provide internet, but since my phone has yet
to be "rooted", I would have to subscribe to T-Mobile's wifi
tethering plan, which I can barely afford paying my bill with the current
required data plan, so this isn't a good idea. And I'm not quite up for
leaving my phone just laying out.
Phil Goldbach
"Men cry not for themselves, but for their comrades."
--- On Sun, 12/5/10, Tony Germano <tony_germano@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Tony Germano <tony_germano@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [frgeek-michiana] Re: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS installs
To: frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Sunday, December 5, 2010, 9:46 PM
Actually, if the box has been sitting on a shelf for an
extended period of time, running updates before we give it away might be a
good way to check that the box still works.
I don't think it's necessary to be 100%
current, but even if we could update the local repository about once a month
that would be much better than nothing.
Tony
From: chuq00@xxxxxxxxx
To: frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 17:53:39 -0500
Subject: [frgeek-michiana] Re: Ubuntu
10.04 LTS installs
I agree, I think a simplistic approach would be the best bet
unless things change. We never ran updates on the vector boxes, just upgrade
to the latest release was all that was done. Worrying about ensuring each box
is fully updated makes the idea of having a multitude of freeboxes ready to
pointless if you have to update each beforehand. Think about when you buy a
computer there aren't any updates done to it at all, unless you pay for that
service. Make it much simpler, no sneaker-netting updates in, updating the
systems, running multiple servers for firewalls and gateways, all things that
would provide good hands on experience for volunteers but is really
unnecessary especially at this point in time.
Chuq
Chuq from my DROID.
-----Original message-----
From: Mike Cook <mikecook@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sun, Dec 5, 2010 21:48:47 GMT+00:00
Subject: [frgeek-michiana] Re: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS installs
My opinion remains that we would be foolish to set up
phone service/dsl to the warehouse at the point we are now. There is no one
at the warehouse during most days. When the warehouse is occupied someone is
generally in possession of a cell phone for emergencies. It would be nice to
have Internet access however for 3 hours use per week just about anything is
going to be too expensive unless it is VERY cheap or free. If at some future
time we find that the warehouse is open 20 or more hours per week the
calculus might change. It would be cheaper but still expensive to go with
cellular broadband. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be any data plans
that don't require a monthly payment regardless of usage. Our best possible
option at this time is piggybacking on someone else's service.
Cricket Broadband
$40 / month Plan
includes
High-speed wireless Internet access with:
usage level - 2.5GB at Best Speed
download speed - up to 1.4 mbps
Plan Features
Coverage
Service Area All Cricket Broadband Coverage Areas
Included Usage
Connectivity 2.5GB after limit usage
Contract Terms and Fees
Carrier's Early Termination Fee None
Contract Term None
Security Deposit None
Wireless Network
Technology CDMA
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Brown
Sent: Dec 4, 2010 5:07 PM
To: frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [frgeek-michiana] Re: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS installs
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