Actually, if the box has been sitting on a shelf for an extended period of time, running updates before we give it away might be a good way to check that the box still works. I don't think it's necessary to be 100% current, but even if we could update the local repository about once a month that would be much better than nothing. Tony From: chuq00@xxxxxxxxx To: frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 17:53:39 -0500 Subject: [frgeek-michiana] Re: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS installs I agree, I think a simplistic approach would be the best bet unless things change. We never ran updates on the vector boxes, just upgrade to the latest release was all that was done. Worrying about ensuring each box is fully updated makes the idea of having a multitude of freeboxes ready to pointless if you have to update each beforehand. Think about when you buy a computer there aren't any updates done to it at all, unless you pay for that service. Make it much simpler, no sneaker-netting updates in, updating the systems, running multiple servers for firewalls and gateways, all things that would provide good hands on experience for volunteers but is really unnecessary especially at this point in time. Chuq Chuq from my DROID. -----Original message----- From: Mike Cook <mikecook@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sun, Dec 5, 2010 21:48:47 GMT+00:00 Subject: [frgeek-michiana] Re: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS installs My opinion remains that we would be foolish to set up phone service/dsl to the warehouse at the point we are now. There is no one at the warehouse during most days. When the warehouse is occupied someone is generally in possession of a cell phone for emergencies. It would be nice to have Internet access however for 3 hours use per week just about anything is going to be too expensive unless it is VERY cheap or free. If at some future time we find that the warehouse is open 20 or more hours per week the calculus might change. It would be cheaper but still expensive to go with cellular broadband. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be any data plans that don't require a monthly payment regardless of usage. Our best possible option at this time is piggybacking on someone else's service. Cricket Broadband $40 / month Plan includes High-speed wireless Internet access with: usage level - 2.5GB at Best Speed download speed - up to 1.4 mbps Plan Features Coverage Service Area All Cricket Broadband Coverage Areas Included Usage Connectivity 2.5GB after limit usage Contract Terms and Fees Carrier's Early Termination Fee None Contract Term None Security Deposit None Wireless Network Technology CDMA -----Original Message----- From: Tom Brown Sent: Dec 4, 2010 5:07 PM To: frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [frgeek-michiana] Re: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS installs ** This list is PUBLICLY archived. ** PLEASE don't post personal or sensitive information unless you wish for it to be in the public domain. Email addresses are removed from the archive but other items included in the body of the email will be shown. To visit the main website for Free Geek Michiana go to http://www.freegeekmichiana.org To post to the list send email to frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx The archive is available at //www.freelists.org/archives/frgeek-michiana/ You may unsubscribe or change your list settings by going to the list website at //www.freelists.org/webpage/frgeek-michiana