[frgeek-michiana] Re: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS installs
- From: "Tom Brown" <tbrown@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 14:46:27 -0500
The actual monthly bill would be several times more expensive since we seem
to need an active business phone account in order to qualify for business
DSL. There are possible installation fees depending on the inside wiring.
FGM must also prove we are a registered business and pass a credit check to
obtain a business phone account.
The base (no taxes, levies, etc.) phone account is $35/mo (unlimited local
calls, no long distance) and the base DSL is $25/mo unless we qualify for a
discount for the DSL. If we ask an AT&T tech to set up and test the DSL,
there is a one time charge of $262.00. Given that we don't know the
condition of the wiring into our workshop, we might need AT&T's assistance
getting the phone and DSL services going. If need be, we can run our own
telco cable to AT&T's access point - wherever that is. There might be a
telco network interface on a nearby external wall or, more likely, in a
closet somewhere in the greater warehouse complex, which might mean a long
run of wire if the existing wiring is bad or substandard for DSL. The closet
scenario was the setup at the Chippewa warehouse and the reason my employer
decided on wireless Internet (DSL was not available, and the installation
costs for T1 were enormous).
I suppose, if the phone service works, then DSL should work as well; but
there is no telling at this point. We only know the base monthly cost before
installation fees, taxes and other levies: $60 per month. Since we currently
wouldn't use the phone or DSL more than 3 hours per week, it is a bit
expensive at $20/hour.
I will call my employer's AT&T rep and ask her for detailed information
although I suspect she will refer me to the AT&T small business group. If I
have any of this wrong, please correct me.
Tom --
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From: frgeek-michiana-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:frgeek-michiana-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of chuq00@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 12:35
To: frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [frgeek-michiana] Re: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS installs
Sounds like a decision needs to be made quickly, and go for the $25 plan.
Chuq from my DROID.
-----Original message-----
From: Tom Brown <tbrown@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sat, Dec 4, 2010 17:32:13 GMT+00:00
Subject: [frgeek-michiana] Re: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS installs
Here's what I found on the AT&T page.
RESIDENTIAL
1. DSL Direct Basic $15/mo <= 768 kbps down;
2. DSL Direct Express $20/mo <= 1500 kbps;
3. DSL Direct Pro $20/mo <= 3000 kbps;
4. DSL Direct Elite $25/mo <= 6000 kbps.
All contracts appear to be 12 months then the price can change. No phone
line is required although there could be hidden installation fees if AT&T
doesn't have external or internal wiring at the residence. I gave false and
actual addresses on my block to determine whether any of the plans are
available. False addresses were flagged as such. Actual addresses produced a
list of plans. Only speaking to a sales rep would flesh out plan details and
requirements.
BUSINESS
1. High Speed Internet Express $25/mo, 1500/384 kbps
2. High Speed Internet Pro $30/mo, 3000/512 kbps
3. High Speed Internet Elite $30/mo, 6000/768 kbps
AT&T checks their database to determine whether an address has residential
or business service or whether the address exists. 635 S Lafayette Blvd,
South Bend, 46601, returned a list of plans. The plans seem to require new
or existing phone service, and special pricing is only good until
12/30/2010.
Following are other restrictions.
-----------------------------------------------------
HIGH-SPEED INTERNET WITH VOICE SERVICE - NEW ORDERS
DYNAMIC IP (POPULAR) PLANS:
SERVICE REQUIRES: DSL modem/gateway/router and qualifying local service from
AT&T at time of online order. OTHER CHARGES: A shipping and handling fee
applies for the customer self-install kit. Price varies depending upon
shipment method. Taxes and additional fees extra. OTHER TERMS: "Up to" speed
claim(s) represent maximum downstream and/or upstream speed capabilities.
Many factors can affect actual speeds, which will vary and are not
guaranteed. In order to enhance reliability and consistency of performance,
some lines may be provisioned at less than the maximum speed capability but
within the range of speed purchased. See the Terms of Service at
www.att.yahoo.com/terms. Service and speed not available in all areas.
AT&T Wi-Fi Basic Offer:
AT&T Wi-Fi Basic service is included with AT&T High Speed Internet Basic,
Express, Pro, and Elite. An 802.11 b/g enabled device is required for Wi-Fi
access. Service not available in all areas. Other restrictions apply. See
www.attwifi.com for additional details and locations.
Starbucks:
Wi-Fi service at Starbucks available at U.S. company-operated Starbucks
locations equipped with a hot spot. Starbucks and the Starbucks logo are
registered trademarks of Starbucks U.S. Brands, LLC.
$14.95/$19.95 Intro Pricing Promotion:
Customers purchasing new AT&T High Speed Internet Basic, Express or Pro will
pay $14.95 per month for 12 months after application of bill credit.
Customers purchasing AT&T High Speed Internet Elite will pay $19.95 per
month for 12 months after application of bill credit. First 2 credits will
appear on same bill within the first 3 bill cycles (Not applicable in CT).
After 12 months existing standard rates apply. Promotional rates will expire
if customer upgrades or downgrades their speed tier during promo period.
Qualifying Local access line required. New DSL residential customers only.
Other conditions and restrictions apply. Offer expires 12/30/10.
Cable Internet Switch Offer:
Available to residential customers switching existing cable Internet service
to AT&T High Speed Internet. $100 reward card for purchase of DSL Basic,
Express, Pro, or Elite speeds. Subscription to AT&T local service required.
Customer must satisfy all outstanding obligations with current cable
provider. Only one high-speed Internet cable switch offer per local
telephone bill. Online redemption required. Reward card redemption requires
customer to retain qualifying service(s) a minimum of 30 days and at time
processing of reward is completed. Reward card will be sent within 4-6 weeks
to eligible customers following redemption of reward. Reward card may not be
used to pay for local telephone service provided by AT&T. Not available with
other AT&T High Speed Internet offers. Offer ends 12/31/10.
Free Gateway or Modem Rebate Offer:
Offer ends 12/31/10. Online orders only. Available to new customers
purchasing AT&T High Speed Internet Pro or Elite only. Charge for Modem
($62.05) OR Gateway ($87.05) will appear on first bill. Customer must sign
up for Account Manager. Rebate details mailed to customer 4-6 weeks after
order is placed. Applicable taxes and fees will be based on the full monthly
price of products and services and will not be credited with any reward or
bill credit. Check mailed 4-6 weeks after redemption information is provided
to AT&T and service requirement of 30 days is met. Account must be current.
AT&T may provide refurbished modem. Other Charges: A shipping and handling
fee applies for the customer self-install kit. Price varies depending upon
shipment method. Offer may be modified or discontinued at any time.
STATIC IP PLANS:
SERVICE REQUIRES: DSL gateway or router and qualifying local service from
AT&T at time of online order. Minimum 12-month term commitment required.
OTHER CHARGES: Taxes and additional fees extra. OTHER TERMS: Actual speeds
based on DSL synch rate, may vary, and are not guaranteed. Many factors
affect speed. Service and speed not available in all areas. We do not
guarantee that online orders can be successfully processed for every
requesting customer. Early termination fee applies. $250 charge for
technician installation required on static IP products. Equipment charges
may be included and will appear on the first bill. Information about the
online rebate redemption will be sent by mail. Customers must complete the
online rebate redemption process within 90 days of AT&T High Speed Internet
service activation. The equipment rebate offer is valid in the following
states: AR, CA, CT, IL, IN, KS, MI, MO, NV, OH, OK, TX, & WI. Rebate void
where prohibited, taxed or restricted by law. Rebate may not be assigned,
transferred or sold. One equipment rebate allowed per high-speed Internet
line. Account must be current and in service for a minimum of 60 days to be
eligible for rebate. Customers are not eligible to receive a rebate that
would exceed total purchase price of equipment. Rebate check will be mailed
to the customer's billing address within 4-6 weeks of completion of the
online rebate redemption process and meeting the 60 day minimum service
requirement. We are not responsible for late, lost, misdirected, or
postage-due mail or mail damaged by the U.S. Post Office. Rebate is offered
by AT&T Internet Services and cannot be applied to your AT&T local exchange
carrier bill. Some customers may need to purchase additional equipment (for
example: Ethernet card and/or cable). Billing begins on service activation
date. Service not available in all areas. Acceptance of Terms of Service
required. Taxes and additional fees and surcharges extra. Other
restrictions, including credit restrictions and qualification, apply.
Advertised services and Internet speed options not available in all areas.
Offers may be modified or discontinued at any time without notice. Other
conditions may apply to all offers.
AT&T U-verse High Speed Internet Service:
Residential customers only. Prices, programming, and offers subject to
change without notice. Credit and other restrictions apply. U-verse High
Speed Internet service requires a modem/router and may also require
qualifying local service. Taxes, excessive usage and other charges may
apply. Speed claim(s) represent maximum downstream and/or upstream speed
capabilities which may vary and are not guaranteed. Many factors can affect
actual speeds. In order to enhance reliability and consistency of
performance, some lines may be provisioned at less than the maximum speed
capability but within the range of speed purchased. Service and speed not
available in all areas. U-verse High Speed Internet may be affected by the
use of other U-verse services. Wireless networking may require adapter,
purchased separately.
Internet Security Suite:
AT&T Internet Security Suite powered by McAfeeR provides anti-virus
protection, anti-spyware, and firewall. Available at no extra charge for
high-speed Internet plans with a 3.0 Mbps downstream speed or higher. For
high-speed Internet plans with a 1.5 Mbps downstream speed or lower, the
Internet Security Suite is an optional service for $5 per month. Taxes and
additional fees extra. Download of McAfee software can be completed at
att.net/ISS.
OTHER INFORMATION:
Advertised services and Internet speed options not available in all areas.
Offers may be modified or discontinued at any time without notice. Other
conditions may apply to all offers. Subsidiaries and affiliates of AT&T Inc.
provide products and services under the AT&T brand. AT&T, the AT&T logo and
all other AT&T marks contained herein are trademarks of AT&T Intellectual
Property and/or AT&T affiliated companies. C 2010 AT&T Intellectual
Property. All rights reserved.
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Tom --
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From: frgeek-michiana-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:frgeek-michiana-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard Zimmerman
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 19:29
To: frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [frgeek-michiana] Re: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS installs
google AT&T DSL, click on <http://www.att.com/gen/general?pid=11523> DSL
without a phone line
<http://www.att.com/gen/general?pid=11523> Richard
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Tom Brown <tbrown@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
FreeBox recipients may be interested in the AT&T low cost alternative. Can
someone post a link to the marketing page?
Tom --
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From: frgeek-michiana-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:frgeek-michiana-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tony Germano
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 17:22
To: frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [frgeek-michiana] Re: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS installs
The AT&T deal is for residential only. I brought it up and we discussed it
on this list back in September. It lead to a discussion of OpenMesh.
I agree that it isn't important that the systems are 100% up to date when we
hand them out, but I think they should be at least close at the time of
install. You are right that if they don't have internet at home there is
little reason to make sure all of the security updates are applied. We don't
want to leave them with 3+ hours of updates the first time they boot up and
connect to the internet either, though.
Tony
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From: chuq00@xxxxxxxxx
To: frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 06:08:44 -0500
Subject: [frgeek-michiana] Re: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS installs
Using clonezilla on a 100 Mbit takes less than 20 minutes. Ideally you would
setup vbox mount your image in it run any updates to that image in vbox,
reclone it and then send it on the wire.
As far as servers and what-not goes, I am a bit confused as to why one would
need a gateway and firewall if one does not have internet access.
I would say using ubuntu server would be the best idea as it would make
administering it easy since it is ubuntu and everyone is familiar with it,
but ultimately it comes down to who is going to be using it and
administrating it.
Ubuntu supports your choice of virtual appliances if you are wanting to use
other oses to be a firewall, although it can easily handle doing all of it.
The server should have 2 nics ideally but if your not going to have internet
access 1 could get you by. I personally would waste the extra electricity
running multiple servers when 1 can handle it.
As far as internet goes, at&t dsl is only $15 per month, why not just get it
installed and make life easier than sneaker-netting everything in. Set-up
ssh, and someone can log in before volunteer night, and process the updates
needed, so when everyone comes in that does not have to be done.
The whole no internet access thing with trying this and that, is a dead
horse, quit beating it and order at&t otherwise too much time will be wasted
every week taking out hard drives, rsyncing repos, installing hdd, updating,
and everything every week.
Also, why are we worried about ensuring each system is fully updated? I mean
if systems are prepped and sitting on a shelf until class time, are you
going to pull each system, and update it before it goes out? Sounds like too
much repetitive work.
Install the systems, tell them to come to the next lug meeting if they do
not have internet and want to learn how to update their system. Otherwise
your just making too much needless work for the volunteers. Hell it is
linux, even if it had a big security hole it is less likely to be exploited
than a m$ system. And honestly if they do not have internet at home, then
there is not much need in it being updated. If they do have internet ubuntu
will pop up and say you have 1500 updates available and let's update it.
That will make life easier for everyone.
Addressing the volunteers installing ubuntu, if needed you can always grab a
box and do it, or set up vbox on the server and let them install it that
way, you delete afterwards.
Chuq
Chuq from my DROID.
-----Original message-----
From: Phil Goldbach <shadowvar8541@xxxxxxxxx>
To: frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thu, Dec 2, 2010 05:28:51 GMT+00:00
Subject: [frgeek-michiana] Re: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS installs
Ubuntu is Debian based, so by getting more familiar with Ubuntu, you become
familiar to Debian by proxy. However, I don't know how well server editions
of anything hold up, so I can't say much of anything. If one is going to be
easier to use than the other, then that's fine by me. Although I had gotten
comfortable enough with the server to know how to log onto it, print
necessary forms and burn CDs. Either way, no big deal. Speaking of which, I
know we're keeping manual timesheets, but if I recall correctly, when Goose
transitioned the warehouse server from VL to Debian, the timesheets and all
the other docs were saved. Ironically, can't seem to find them on the
server. Unless they're under the administrator and can't be viewed by a
guest user?
I may not know how to setup a server or repo, but couldn't we do the rsync
as Goose suggested with an external for the server, then add and remove our
repo to Freeboxes ourselves? I realize this does add two extra steps (add,
then remove) to the install and testing process, but unless someone else can
come up with something better or knows of a better way, then by all means
I'd say go for it. Until we get Internet, this would probably be the best
idea.
By the same token, doing network installs would probably work much faster
than physical media. Sure, it cuts out on new volunteers learning how to
install via CD/DVD based, but we can always teach and probably use both
methods-network for when we're pressed on time or need to get FreeBoxes out,
and CD based when there's not many volunteers or no rush for machines. I
forget how fast Chuq said it was, but I know that as far as installing a
complete OS plus additional programs it took him less than an hour to setup
a machine at his shop.
It's December, I don't know if we've had enough machines installed and
updated for a class, but if we're wanting to do this, then maybe it would be
possible for Chuq and Goose to show us how to set it all up? I only suggest
this because Goose is the most familiar with Debian (the server) and Chuq
knows how to go about using Clonezilla (correct me if I'm wrong). And I
believe it was Mark who said that we would just have to be sure that we have
the images for Intel and AMD based machines.
In the end, I know very little about all this, but here's the thing: Let's
just make a decision on which method to do installs, and stick with it for
the time being. Then make a decision about how to go about updating the
Freeboxes. I would vote for Goose's idea of rsync w/external hard drive. It
still comes down to someone taking the external home, getting the new
updates, then coming back a week later to update the server, but a lot
easier than a volunteer lugging home a machine or two, updating it, and
sucking up their available bandwith and whatnot, then having to lug the
machine back to the warehouse.
Phil Goldbach
"Men cry not for themselves, but for their comrades."
--- On Wed, 12/1/10, Tom Brown <tbrown@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Tom Brown <tbrown@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [frgeek-michiana] Re: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS installs
To: frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Wednesday, December 1, 2010, 5:15 PM
We don't have anybody currently attending the workshop with the Debian chops
to set up and maintain the server as a gateway/firewall. There are several
unused rack servers in inventory which can be used for the gateway/firewall,
and I know ClearOS. Even if Mike has the Debian chops, I think his time is
better devoted to building shelving; at least that is the plan he has laid
out.
While we are on the subject and since we are standardizing on Ubuntu on the
desktop, does anyone have an opinion re using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS server
edition instead of Debian at the workshop and possibly elsewhere? I don't
know enough about Debian or Ubuntu to have an opinion. I'm more familiar
with CentOS and Slackware, and, of those two distros I am almost certain the
majority would prefer CentOS.
Tom --
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From: frgeek-michiana-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:frgeek-michiana-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard Zimmerman
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 12:52
To: frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [frgeek-michiana] Re: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS installs
Why use a separate gateway/firewall machine... The existing Debian server is
more then capable of handling it....
Also, as far as repository goes, rsync any repository you want to follow to
a external hard drive, then rsync it to the server...
Richard
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Tom Brown <tbrown@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<http://mc/compose?to=tbrown@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
Two weeks ago (was it 3?) we moved the test table next to the overhead door
and the server rack to between the load tables. This week we'll fan out
cables to the load tables. I suppose the next step is to set up an Ubuntu
10.04 LTS repository on the server. I think Mike already knows how to do
this, but I'll research it too. If anyone else wants to help with the
project, let me know.
We might want to use one of the smaller rack servers as a gateway/firewall.
I am familiar with Clear OS since I use it at work. Clear OS provides an
open source community edition which should provide enough services for us.
Tom --
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<http://mc/compose?to=frgeek-michiana-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
[mailto:frgeek-michiana-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<http://mc/compose?to=frgeek-michiana-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ] On Behalf Of
Phil Goldbach
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 00:39
To: frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<http://mc/compose?to=frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [frgeek-michiana] Re: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS installs
I apologize I haven't checked the list in weeks, college does that.
I agree that the repository idea is the best route to go, especially if we
set up a LAN. No idea on how to build/create a repository, hopefully you
guys do. But setting up a LAN with a repo would in effect allow us to test
our network interfaces. After all, we do have the gear to it. I do recommend
that if we use the current rack-mount LAN that is sitting on the shelf over
the loading tables that we see about mounting it to the bottom side of the
shelf or somewhere else so that way it isn't taking up space on the shelf.
Don't know if this has been addressed yet or not, but we do need copies of
Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, and probably would be a good idea to have the ISO on the
warehouse server to burn more copies as needed. The idea is that each
loading/testing station should have a copy of Ubuntu, data and audio CDs,
and each D-BAN should have a copy of D-BAN (or UBCD to utilize HDDErase). I
have some CDs that I can bring in for copies to be made so that way we have
audio discs. Most of it's Def Leppard, though. Still works for our purposes.
Good news is that I only have a couple more weeks of college left before
semester is over.
Phil Goldbach
"Men cry not for themselves, but for their comrades."
--- On Mon, 11/15/10, Tom Brown <tbrown@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<http://mc/compose?to=tbrown@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
From: Tom Brown <tbrown@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<http://mc/compose?to=tbrown@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >
Subject: [frgeek-michiana] Re: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS installs
To: frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<http://mc/compose?to=frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Monday, November 15, 2010, 4:00 PM
Months ago we decided to set up a repository. But, without more help, the
project was put on hold while we dealt with inventory and began building
shelving for the workshop. I hope to set up a LAN in the workshop this week;
then we can take up the repository project soon.
Tom --
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Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 12:02
To: frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<http://mc/compose?to=frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [frgeek-michiana] Re: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS installs
That was being done for a while. I think the best solution without internet
at the warehouse would creating a local repository and taking that home
weekly to be updated.
Chuq from my DROID.
-----Original message-----
From: Mark Neddeau <mln3768@xxxxxxxxx
<http://mc/compose?to=mln3768@xxxxxxxxx> >
To: frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<http://mc/compose?to=frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sun, Nov 14, 2010 16:54:22 GMT+00:00
Subject: [frgeek-michiana] Re: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS installs
That is correct, as I recall.
I had another idea about getting things up and running "Out of the Box",
from the warehouse. We could actually send a fresh install home with a
volunteer to finish up downloading and running all of the CURRENT updates,
which will be ever-changing, of course, as well as intalling the "Ubuntu
Restricted Extras" packages for decoding DVDs and most of the common codecs,
(and, perhaps the VLC player, which has a vast codec library of it's
own)...an then make a CLONE, preferably on a CD, but a HDD, IF necessary,
then we could just clone them at the warehouse. This should not be too much
of a problem as far as the HAL is concerned, but we would have to have one
clone each for AMD-based and Intel-based systems, that is IF we have any AMD
systems to give away...
Just a thought.
--- On Fri, 11/12/10, Tom Brown wrote:
> From: Tom Brown
> Subject: [frgeek-michiana] Re: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS installs
> To: frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<http://mc/compose?to=frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Friday, November 12, 2010, 8:25 PM
> Sorry about my imprecise language.
>
> Rhythmbox on my Ubuntu 10.04 laptop automatically detects
> music CDs and pops up a list of the tunes to choose from. I
> recall Movie Player, or Ubuntu, offering to download
> additional libraries the first time I tried to play a video
> DVD. Perhaps audio codecs were included? I don't remember
> doing the same thing with Rhythmbox.
>
> At the workshop, Rhythmbox did not detect music CDs. When
> we opened Rhythmbox and tried to play an audio CD, we got
> error messages saying mp3 libraries or codecs were not
> available to play the CD.
>
> RhythmBox's web site says:
>
> * Easy to use music browser
> * Searching and sorting
> * Comprehensive audio format support
> through GStreamer
> * Internet Radio support including
> last.fm streams
> * Playlists
> * Display audio visualizations
> * Transfer music to and from iPod, MTP,
> and USB Mass Storage music players
> * Display album art and song lyrics
> downloaded from the internet
> * Play, rip, and burn audio CDs
> * Automatically download audio podcasts
> * Browse, preview, and download albums
> from Magnatune and Jamendo
>
> However, all we got last night was an error message
> regarding mp3 files. We know the CDROM drive was good
> because we installed Ubuntu from it and also manually
> mounted data CDs.
>
> We'll try the HPLJ4 driver next week.
>
> Tom --
>
> Tony Germano wrote:
> > Technically, an audio CD can't be mounted. It doesn't
> have a filesystem. It is in the RedBook format, and the
> audio is encoded in 2-channel PCM at 44.1kHz. Whether Ubuntu
> detects it as a audio CD and autoplays it is another matter,
> but it shouldn't be dependent on mp3 codecs being present
> (unless we're actually talking about a data disc with mp3
> files on it.) I find it very surprising that a fresh install
> can't play an audio cd. You may need to actually select a
> "Play Audio CD" option in the media player. I know that is
> the case with Windows Media Player and VLC (and 12 years ago
> when I still used WinAmp.)
> >
> > As for the printer, nearly every HP LasetJet that I've
> come across will work with the standard LaserJet 4 drivers
> (at least in Windows) as long as you don't need any extra
> functionality like selecting output trays or duplexing. That
> printer and, I believe, all LaserJets after it support the
> Enhanced PCL 5 language.
> >
> > Tony
> >
> > > Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 09:13:03 -0500
> > > From: tbrown@xxxxxxxxxxxx <http://mc/compose?to=tbrown@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<http://mc/compose?to=frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Subject: [frgeek-michiana] Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
> installs
> > >
> > > Mark and I found some problems last night testing
> Ubuntu 10.04 LTS.
> > >
> > > 1. Audio/video CDs and DVDs
> > >
> > > We discovered that Ubuntu 10.04 LTS has problems
> automounting CDs and
> > > audio CDs in particular. Ubuntu does not come
> with MP3 codecs installed
> > > so we could not play, and therefore test, audio
> CDs. We were able to
> > > test the sound subsystem another way.
> > >
> > > I suspect we'll have the same problem with video
> CDs and DVDs because of
> > > missing codecs.
> > >
> > > 2. Printer setup
> > >
> > > Mark attached the Laserjet HP6L gravity feed
> printer we typically use
> > > for final testing. Ubuntu detected the printer,
> but there were no local
> > > printer drivers for it. Instead, Ubuntu tried to
> download drivers from
> > > the Internet. Since we don't have an Internet
> connection yet, that
> > > didn't work.
> > >
> > > 3. Network interfaces
> > >
> > > We need to install a LAN at the workshop so we
> can test network
> > > interfaces. I'll bring cable, tools and a tester
> next Thursday.
> > >
> > > 4. Immediate solution
> > >
> > > The only immediate solution is to put off testing
> of these components of
> > > Ubuntu and inform FreeBox recipients they need to
> bring their systems to
> > > FGMLUG for final setup and testing. Even if we
> are prepared to do so at
> > > the workshop, we might want to put off installing
> drivers and codecs.
> > >
> > > FGMLUG has Internet connections and can download
> updates, drivers and
> > > codecs. The advantage is hooking people into
> FGMLUG right away. LUG
> > > members can test the network interface and show
> the recipient how to
> > > update their systems. If they bring an audio CD
> or DVD, FGMLUG can
> > > install codecs and show the user how to play
> audio/video on their
> > > computer as well as install Flash for web
> browsing.
> > >
> > > FGMLUG can advise recipients on printers and
> install printers. At our
> > > last meeting we showed an FGMLUG member how to
> install a printer over
> > > his home XP based network. He brought the printer
> to the meeting. We
> > > showed him how to install the printer directly on
> the Ubuntu box. Then
> > > we installed the printer on a Windows Vista
> system, detected the printer
> > > over the network and installed the correct driver
> in Ubuntu.
> > >
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