[frgeek-michiana] Re: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS installs

  • From: "Tom Brown" <tbrown@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 17:15:38 -0500

We don't have anybody currently attending the workshop with the Debian chops
to set up and maintain the server as a gateway/firewall. There are several
unused rack servers in inventory which can be used for the gateway/firewall,
and I know ClearOS. Even if Mike has the Debian chops, I think his time is
better devoted to building shelving; at least that is the plan he has laid
out. 

 

While we are on the subject and since we are standardizing on Ubuntu on the
desktop, does anyone have an opinion re using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS server
edition instead of Debian at the workshop and possibly elsewhere? I don't
know enough about Debian or Ubuntu to have an opinion. I'm more familiar
with CentOS and Slackware, and, of those two distros I am almost certain the
majority would prefer CentOS.

 

Tom --

 

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From: frgeek-michiana-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:frgeek-michiana-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard Zimmerman
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 12:52
To: frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [frgeek-michiana] Re: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS installs

 

Why use a separate gateway/firewall machine... The existing Debian server is
more then capable of handling it....

 

Also, as far as repository goes, rsync any repository you want to follow to
a external hard drive, then rsync it to the server...

 

Richard

 

On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Tom Brown <tbrown@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Two weeks ago (was it 3?) we moved the test table next to the overhead door
and the server rack to between the load tables. This week we'll fan out
cables to the load tables. I suppose the next step is to set up an Ubuntu
10.04 LTS repository on the server. I think Mike already knows how to do
this, but I'll research it too. If anyone else wants to help with the
project, let me know.

 

We might want to use one of the smaller rack servers as a gateway/firewall.
I am familiar with Clear OS since I use it at work. Clear OS provides an
open source community edition which should provide enough services for us.

 

Tom --

 

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From: frgeek-michiana-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:frgeek-michiana-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Phil Goldbach
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 00:39
To: frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [frgeek-michiana] Re: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS installs

 


I apologize I haven't checked the list in weeks, college does that. 

I agree that the repository idea is the best route to go, especially if we
set up a LAN. No idea on how to build/create a repository, hopefully you
guys do. But setting up a LAN with a repo would in effect allow us to test
our network interfaces. After all, we do have the gear to it. I do recommend
that if we use the current rack-mount LAN that is sitting on the shelf over
the loading tables that we see about mounting it to the bottom side of the
shelf or somewhere else so that way it isn't taking up space on the shelf. 

Don't know if this has been addressed yet or not, but we do need copies of
Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, and probably would be a good idea to have the ISO on the
warehouse server to burn more copies as needed. The idea is that each
loading/testing station should have a copy of Ubuntu, data and audio CDs,
and each D-BAN should have a copy of D-BAN (or UBCD to utilize HDDErase). I
have some CDs that I can bring in for copies to be made so that way we have
audio discs. Most of it's Def Leppard, though. Still works for our purposes.
Good news is that I only have a couple more weeks of college left before
semester is over.

Phil Goldbach

"Men cry not for themselves, but for their comrades."

--- On Mon, 11/15/10, Tom Brown <tbrown@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


From: Tom Brown <tbrown@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [frgeek-michiana] Re: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS installs
To: frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Monday, November 15, 2010, 4:00 PM

Months ago we decided to set up a repository. But, without more help, the
project was put on hold while we dealt with inventory and began building
shelving for the workshop. I hope to set up a LAN in the workshop this week;
then we can take up the repository project soon.

 

Tom --

 

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From: frgeek-michiana-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:frgeek-michiana-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of chuq00@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 12:02
To: frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [frgeek-michiana] Re: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS installs

 

That was being done for a while. I think the best solution without internet
at the warehouse would creating a local repository and taking that home
weekly to be updated. 


Chuq from my DROID.



-----Original message-----

From: Mark Neddeau <mln3768@xxxxxxxxx>
To: frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sun, Nov 14, 2010 16:54:22 GMT+00:00
Subject: [frgeek-michiana] Re: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS installs

That is correct, as I recall.

I had another idea about getting things up and running "Out of the Box",
from the warehouse. We could actually send a fresh install home with a
volunteer to finish up downloading and running all of the CURRENT updates,
which will be ever-changing, of course, as well as intalling the "Ubuntu
Restricted Extras" packages for decoding DVDs and most of the common codecs,
(and, perhaps the VLC player, which has a vast codec library of it's
own)...an then make a CLONE, preferably on a CD, but a HDD, IF necessary,
then we could just clone them at the warehouse. This should not be too much
of a problem as far as the HAL is concerned, but we would have to have one
clone each for AMD-based and Intel-based systems, that is IF we have any AMD
systems to give away...

Just a thought.



--- On Fri, 11/12/10, Tom Brown wrote:

> From: Tom Brown 
> Subject: [frgeek-michiana] Re: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS installs
> To: frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Friday, November 12, 2010, 8:25 PM
> Sorry about my imprecise language.
> 
> Rhythmbox on my Ubuntu 10.04 laptop automatically detects
> music CDs and pops up a list of the tunes to choose from. I
> recall Movie Player, or Ubuntu, offering to download
> additional libraries the first time I tried to play a video
> DVD. Perhaps audio codecs were included? I don't remember
> doing the same thing with Rhythmbox.
> 
> At the workshop, Rhythmbox did not detect music CDs. When
> we opened Rhythmbox and tried to play an audio CD, we got
> error messages saying mp3 libraries or codecs were not
> available to play the CD.
> 
> RhythmBox's web site says:
> 
>    *  Easy to use music browser
>    * Searching and sorting
>    * Comprehensive audio format support
> through GStreamer
>    * Internet Radio support including
> last.fm streams
>    * Playlists
>    * Display audio visualizations
>    * Transfer music to and from iPod, MTP,
> and USB Mass Storage music players
>    * Display album art and song lyrics
> downloaded from the internet
>    * Play, rip, and burn audio CDs
>    * Automatically download audio podcasts
>    * Browse, preview, and download albums
> from Magnatune and Jamendo
> 
> However, all we got last night was an error message
> regarding mp3 files. We know the CDROM drive was good
> because we installed Ubuntu from it and also manually
> mounted data CDs.
> 
> We'll try the HPLJ4 driver next week.
> 
> Tom --
> 
> Tony Germano wrote:
> > Technically, an audio CD can't be mounted. It doesn't
> have a filesystem. It is in the RedBook format, and the
> audio is encoded in 2-channel PCM at 44.1kHz. Whether Ubuntu
> detects it as a audio CD and autoplays it is another matter,
> but it shouldn't be dependent on mp3 codecs being present
> (unless we're actually talking about a data disc with mp3
> files on it.) I find it very surprising that a fresh install
> can't play an audio cd. You may need to actually select a
> "Play Audio CD" option in the media player. I know that is
> the case with Windows Media Player and VLC (and 12 years ago
> when I still used WinAmp.)
> > 
> > As for the printer, nearly every HP LasetJet that I've
> come across will work with the standard LaserJet 4 drivers
> (at least in Windows) as long as you don't need any extra
> functionality like selecting output trays or duplexing. That
> printer and, I believe, all LaserJets after it support the
> Enhanced PCL 5 language.
> > 
> > Tony
> > 
> > > Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 09:13:03 -0500
> > > From: tbrown@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > To: frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [frgeek-michiana] Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
> installs
> > >
> > > Mark and I found some problems last night testing
> Ubuntu 10.04 LTS.
> > >
> > > 1. Audio/video CDs and DVDs
> > >
> > > We discovered that Ubuntu 10.04 LTS has problems
> automounting CDs and
> > > audio CDs in particular. Ubuntu does not come
> with MP3 codecs installed
> > > so we could not play, and therefore test, audio
> CDs. We were able to
> > > test the sound subsystem another way.
> > >
> > > I suspect we'll have the same problem with video
> CDs and DVDs because of
> > > missing codecs.
> > >
> > > 2. Printer setup
> > >
> > > Mark attached the Laserjet HP6L gravity feed
> printer we typically use
> > > for final testing. Ubuntu detected the printer,
> but there were no local
> > > printer drivers for it. Instead, Ubuntu tried to
> download drivers from
> > > the Internet. Since we don't have an Internet
> connection yet, that
> > > didn't work.
> > >
> > > 3. Network interfaces
> > >
> > > We need to install a LAN at the workshop so we
> can test network
> > > interfaces. I'll bring cable, tools and a tester
> next Thursday.
> > >
> > > 4. Immediate solution
> > >
> > > The only immediate solution is to put off testing
> of these components of
> > > Ubuntu and inform FreeBox recipients they need to
> bring their systems to
> > > FGMLUG for final setup and testing. Even if we
> are prepared to do so at
> > > the workshop, we might want to put off installing
> drivers and codecs.
> > >
> > > FGMLUG has Internet connections and can download
> updates, drivers and
> > > codecs. The advantage is hooking people into
> FGMLUG right away. LUG
> > > members can test the network interface and show
> the recipient how to
> > > update their systems. If they bring an audio CD
> or DVD, FGMLUG can
> > > install codecs and show the user how to play
> audio/video on their
> > > computer as well as install Flash for web
> browsing.
> > >
> > > FGMLUG can advise recipients on printers and
> install printers. At our
> > > last meeting we showed an FGMLUG member how to
> install a printer over
> > > his home XP based network. He brought the printer
> to the meeting. We
> > > showed him how to install the printer directly on
> the Ubuntu box. Then
> > > we installed the printer on a Windows Vista
> system, detected the printer
> > > over the network and installed the correct driver
> in Ubuntu.
> > >
> > > Tom --
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