yes, very true. It is teamwork. There are so many things that go into a funder’s decision to fund or not fund a particular program. Sounds like this organization doesn’t want to risk anything. They only pay if the fundraiser delivers, so I guess they feel they have nothing to lose. From: Esther Sharon Sent: June 04, 2013 2:12 PM To: mailto:kh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: Aryeh Halivni ; Ron Allswang ; mailto:frforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [Fundraisers Forum] Re: fundraising job All starting orgs in Israel, start with nonprofessionals at the helm, who ALL think they can get "fund raising" (the fact they advert for that says they're unprofessional!! we are DEVELOPMENT professionals, remember??!) for free, and they try. Iffff they get responses to such ads, they're clueless that the responders are charlatan. Fast forward: go prove who exactly "raised" the mill from a donor - be cause it's TONS of team work! it's called and spelled D-E-V-E-L-O-P-M-E-N-T Teamwork On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 1:59 PM, <kh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: I’ve heard that too but quite a few organizations seem to want that type of arrangement. I don’t like it because 1. It means I don’t get paid until they get the money (which could be a year from now) and 2. If they don’t get the money, I don’t get paid anything even if I write the best grant in the world. From: Aryeh Halivni Sent: June 04, 2013 1:55 PM To: mailto:kh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: Ron Allswang ; mailto:frforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [Fundraisers Forum] Re: fundraising job I know that the Association of Fundraising Professionals (in the US) frowns on that type of compensation: http://www.afpnet.org/Ethics/EnforcementDetail.cfm?itemnumber=4013 __________________________ Aryeh Halivni (Eric Weisberg) Executive Director Toldot Yisrael Mobile: 052-530-6020 Email: halivni@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.toldotyisrael.org On Jun 4, 2013, at 1:27 PM, <kh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hi all, I came across this fundraising job in case anyone is interested. I’ve never worked on a percentage fee of the amount donated before, but 20% does sound rather high. Maybe not. Kate Hallgren JOBS: Freelance fundraiser needed Posted by Israel Aid Mission (Tel Aviv) Monday, 03 June 2013 3:05 PM Reply by email | Forward | Online safetyShare on emailShare on printShare on favoritesShare on twitterShare on linkedinShare on facebook The Israel Aid Mission, Israel's volunteer disaster rescue team, is seeking motivated freelance fundraisers. Ideal candidates have solid connections to benevolent philanthropists in their home communities and are prepared to approach these individuals on behalf of the organization. Fundraisers shall receive 20% of all funds cleared (less transfer fees) to the organization. Contact Davey Smith, IAM Director, at 054 719 6980 or director@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx for more information. www.IsraelAidMission.org