it's never redundant to be reminded of Dan Pallotta's classic TED talk
<https://www.google.co.il/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj22-jvpYPVAhXDShQKHXX2APwQ3ywIJzAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ted.com%2Ftalks%2Fdan_pallotta_the_way_we_think_about_charity_is_dead_wrong&usg=AFQjCNGaO6FpLoa2bvhL2rf901urNuLciw>
2017-07-12 11:05 GMT+03:00 arnie draiman <ajdraiman@xxxxxxxxx>:
hi ayelet -
why are those my only two choices?
your basic assumption is misleading.
i would rather work with an organization that spends $500,000 in total on
overhead and has $5,000,000 to use for projects.
arnie
Ayelet make a very important point. Percentage alone is a poor measure.
Many large organizations have hugh overseas operations to do their
fundraising. American Friends of places like Jerusalem Foundation, Yad
Vashem , Hebrew University and JNF/KKL to name just few do not tally their
costs along with the Israel based Amuta for which the funds are being
raised. Likewise, Federation costs are not reflected in the cost of
raising money by the Jewish Agency for Israel or the JDC.
All in all, be careful with these measures. ...
Steve
Steve M.Solomon, MSW
Expert Consultant
Organizational & Resource Development
(972) 054 309 6444
On Jul 12, 2017 10:50, "Ayelet Myers" <ayeletmyers1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
It is our job to help donors to change their thinking on this. See the
National
Council of Nonprofits
<https://www.councilofnonprofits.org/tools-resources/misunderstanding-overhead>
for a list of blogs on this very point.
One way of pointing out that % is a meaningless measure:
Sample 1 - spend $1M on fundraising and raise $4M, where you have a 25%
fundraising cost but have $3M to spend on your programs.
Sample 2 - spend $600K on fundraising and raise $3M, where you have a 20%
fundraising cost but only have $2.4M to spend on your programs.
Which would you and the donors prefer?
There needs to be a better measure, that looks at the whole picture of
the health and growth of the fundraising activities of the NPO.
On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 10:15 AM, arnie draiman <ajdraiman@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
not sure i exactly understand the question, but i usually recommend
looking at it from a different angle: total cost of overhead including
fundraising. and i usually recommend 10%-15% as an upper limit.
other options include some formula to see "for every shekel spent on
fundraising, we bring in X shekels" or, perhaps, even better, "for every
shekel spent on fundraising (and/or overhead), we accomplish X shekels
worth of program"
arnie draiman
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[Fundraisers Forum] Re: Cost of fundraising as a
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From: Rachelbeth Canar <rachelcanar@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 21:19:36 +0300
Subject: [Fundraisers Forum] Re: Cost of fundraising as a percentage
I think 25% sounds like the highest you would ever want. I would aim for
like 20%.
Also, it is funny that is what your CFO says. All the small
organizations
that I work with spend way less than 10% and they are running their
organizations into the ground because of it.
Well you could figure out your score from Charity Navigator's system.
https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=content.view&cpid=48
Or read what the Association of Fundraising Professionals has to say.
http://www.afpnet.org/files/AFP%20Chapters/CN4/MeasuringandR
eportingFundraisingCosts%20AFPCC.pdf
On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 7:06 PM, Elliott Cahan <elliottcahan@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
I recently had a major donor ask me what our organizations cost of25% and
fundraising was versus what we raise. Our CFO tells me that ours is
that he feels that is low. The donor, feels that this is high, buttells me
that he will be asking all organizations that he donates to, toreport. I'd
be very happy to hear any input that anyone has on this or can directme to
any studies that have been done that show what industry standards are.
Thank you in advance.
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