That would be me :-) Jonny Cline jonnycline@xxxxxxxxx Cell: +972-52-2322336 On 6 June 2013 08:31, soosim <ajdraiman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > i will pass it on to iapf and let's let the professional org that > represents the sector send a letter? > > > On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 8:15 AM, FreeLists Mailing List Manager < > ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> frforum Digest Wed, 05 Jun 2013 Volume: 02 Issue: 049 >> >> In This Issue: >> [Fundraisers Forum] Practical Steps >> [Fundraisers Forum] Re: Practical Steps >> [Fundraisers Forum] Re: Practical Steps >> [Fundraisers Forum] Re: Practical Steps >> [Fundraisers Forum] Re: Practical Steps >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 11:11:54 +0300 >> Subject: [Fundraisers Forum] Practical Steps >> From: Ron Allswang <ron.allswang@xxxxxxxxx> >> >> In light of yesterday's discussion, are there practical steps that we can >> take, individually and as a group, to prevent organizations from >> 'offering' >> Fund Raising jobs on a percentage basis? >> (HT to Dan Brown who encouraged us to continue the 'thread') >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> From: Yonah David <yonahdavid@xxxxxxxxx> >> Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 10:18:09 +0200 >> Subject: [Fundraisers Forum] Re: Practical Steps >> >> as a group, I would suggest on "open letter" to the CEOs of Israel-based >> amutot, to appear in the Times of Israel. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Ron Allswang <ron.allswang@xxxxxxxxx >> >wrote: >> >> > In light of yesterday's discussion, are there practical steps that we >> can >> > take, individually and as a group, to prevent organizations from >> 'offering' >> > Fund Raising jobs on a percentage basis? >> > >> > (HT to Dan Brown who encouraged us to continue the 'thread') >> > >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 11:38:20 +0300 >> Subject: [Fundraisers Forum] Re: Practical Steps >> From: Esther Sharon <estherasharon@xxxxxxxxx> >> >> I reiterate: >> report them to MIDOT מידות as well as to the GOV Reshut Amutot >> email-bombard any org you find offering %s that it is immoral >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Ron Allswang <ron.allswang@xxxxxxxxx >> >wrote: >> >> > In light of yesterday's discussion, are there practical steps that we >> can >> > take, individually and as a group, to prevent organizations from >> 'offering' >> > Fund Raising jobs on a percentage basis? >> > >> > (HT to Dan Brown who encouraged us to continue the 'thread') >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 11:55:24 +0300 >> Subject: [Fundraisers Forum] Re: Practical Steps >> From: Esther Sharon <estherasharon@xxxxxxxxx> >> >> wrong wrong wrong Ahron >> if they can't afford it, they're not in the game, should merge, get >> creative >> >> no excuses ofr nonprofessinalism or immorality. They'll get found out and >> closed down soon enough. >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Ahron Glazer <ahron@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >wrote: >> >> > Hi. I've been following your conversation on the topic and i feel you >> are >> > missing one clear point. Everyone knows this is bad practice but the >> only >> > reason these organizations are offering it is because they can't afford >> to >> > put someone on payroll. If they could, I'm sure they would. And this >> way, >> > there is little risk to their already fragile budget. >> > >> > And even though its bad practice, if someone want to take that >> percentage >> > base and try, then let them. Everyone is trying to do their best to >> make a >> > living. Maybe if they start small with their personal networks and raise >> > some money, the organization can invest in a salary to continue. >> > >> > We should all find success in our efforts and work. >> > >> > Ahron Glazer >> > -- >> > CEO Glazer Marketing >> > Social media management and strategy >> > Http://Glazermarketing.com >> > >> > All roads lead to Jerusalem... Embrace the journey! >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone! >> > >> > >> > On Jun 5, 2013, at 11:38 AM, Esther Sharon <estherasharon@xxxxxxxxx> >> > wrote: >> > >> > I reiterate: >> > report them to MIDOT מידות as well as to the GOV Reshut Amutot >> > >> > email-bombard any org you find offering %s that it is immoral >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Ron Allswang <ron.allswang@xxxxxxxxx >> >wrote: >> > >> >> In light of yesterday's discussion, are there practical steps that we >> can >> >> take, individually and as a group, to prevent organizations from >> 'offering' >> >> Fund Raising jobs on a percentage basis? >> >> >> >> (HT to Dan Brown who encouraged us to continue the 'thread') >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> From: Daniel Meyer <iyimisrael@xxxxxxxxx> >> Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 12:04:40 +0300 >> Subject: [Fundraisers Forum] Re: Practical Steps >> >> RON I think we got the message and opinions ...time to move on. Mush >> Daniel M. Meyer >> Executive Director >> International Young Israel Movement (IYIM) >> Israel Region >> Ph: 972-2-6505924 >> WWW.IYIM.ORG.IL <http://www.iyim.org.il/> >> >> Donate a used Sefer Torah to the I.D.F http://www.redeematorah.org/ >> >> Visit us at: www.iyim.org.il >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Esther Sharon <estherasharon@xxxxxxxxx >> >wrote: >> >> > wrong wrong wrong Ahron >> > >> > if they can't afford it, they're not in the game, should merge, get >> > creative >> > >> > no excuses ofr nonprofessinalism or immorality. They'll get found out >> and >> > closed down soon enough. >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Ahron Glazer < >> ahron@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote: >> > >> >> Hi. I've been following your conversation on the topic and i feel you >> are >> >> missing one clear point. Everyone knows this is bad practice but the >> only >> >> reason these organizations are offering it is because they can't >> afford to >> >> put someone on payroll. If they could, I'm sure they would. And this >> way, >> >> there is little risk to their already fragile budget. >> >> >> >> And even though its bad practice, if someone want to take that >> percentage >> >> base and try, then let them. Everyone is trying to do their best to >> make a >> >> living. Maybe if they start small with their personal networks and >> raise >> >> some money, the organization can invest in a salary to continue. >> >> >> >> We should all find success in our efforts and work. >> >> >> >> Ahron Glazer >> >> -- >> >> CEO Glazer Marketing >> >> Social media management and strategy >> >> Http://Glazermarketing.com >> >> >> >> All roads lead to Jerusalem... Embrace the journey! >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone! >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jun 5, 2013, at 11:38 AM, Esther Sharon <estherasharon@xxxxxxxxx> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> I reiterate: >> >> report them to MIDOT מידות as well as to the GOV Reshut Amutot >> >> >> >> email-bombard any org you find offering %s that it is immoral >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Ron Allswang <ron.allswang@xxxxxxxxx >> >wrote: >> >> >> >>> In light of yesterday's discussion, are there practical steps that we >> >>> can take, individually and as a group, to prevent organizations from >> >>> 'offering' Fund Raising jobs on a percentage basis? >> >>> >> >>> (HT to Dan Brown who encouraged us to continue the 'thread') >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of frforum Digest V2 #49 >> **************************** >> >> > > > -- > arnie draiman > 050-515-6776 > www.draimanconsulting.com > > RANKED #1 ON GOOGLE: Arnie's Tzedakah Adventures > http://www.draimanconsulting.com/draiman_tzedakah_adventures.html > > Member, GuideStar's User Advisory Panel > http://www.guidestar.org/rxg/about-us/user-advisory-panel.aspx > > Are you giving your money away properly? 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