The nice feature I liked about Foundation Center online was being able to
do a simple search of which foundations gave to nonprofits like mine. It's
no problem doing research on my own if I know the Foundation's name, but
figuring out who would want to get to us can be difficult. I also found the
online service made it easier to search there grants been trying to go
through the foundation's 990. Anyway you have to figure out for yourself if
it's worth the money. Good luck
On Jan 9, 2018 11:34, "Nirit Roessler" <nirit.roessler8@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I join in with Rachel's experience.
Must say that I often saw very superficial work done by those outsourced
research services - many foundations that were irrelevant, outdated, or
even not giving in Israel. Even contact info was often not to date. Many
names that were just "padding the list" to make it seem more impressive.
When you think how much money (and expectations!) the paying clients were
putting into this one cannot be but frustrated.
Better teach/learn how to do quality research by oneself. Especially when
it comes to foundations it's pretty straight forward...
2018-01-09 7:26 GMT+02:00 Rachelbeth Canar <rachelcanar@xxxxxxxxx>:
I pay nothing to Guidestar or Foundation Center and get all the
information about North America foundations for free from their 990s posted
there. I agree w Elana like in most things. I have never used a paid
service (except Wealth Engine). I always do all my own research and teach
this very extensively in all my classes.
The benefit I see from those paid services is time saving, especially if
they give you dates of calls for proposals and if they give contact
information.
Rachel Canar
NGO Catalyst
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On Jan 7, 2018, at 8:35 PM, David Maeir-Epstein <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
It's a one time charge. For our retainer clients it's included as part of
their monthly retainer payment.
David Maeir-Epstein, CEO
Israelgrants.com
0544872262
025636629
US phone number: (646)558-6648 <http://pilot.fone.do/#/app/dialer>
On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 8:18 PM, Michele Klein <michele2kl@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
We used Atlas in the past (2015-6) and found their recommendations
pretty useless. They say they have improved and are now charging 5000 NIS
for a year's subscription, which includes a weekly newsletter and a list of
foundations/business that they propose is suitable for your organization. I
am still dithering whether or not to try them again, but after reading your
posts am even less inclined to. David, is your 4500 for a one-off list? I
thought this was a monthly charge for a whole year.
Michele
On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 8:12 PM, Ellin Yassky <
dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thank you all for the quick feedback. It will certainly help us make
our decision.
Ellin
Ellin Yassky, Ph.D.
Hakalir 5/9
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Tel Aviv, Israel
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Illegitimi non carborundum!
On Sunday, January 7, 2018, 8:09:07 PM GMT+2, Elana Silver <
elanasilver@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Regarding earlier question about databases, I have not used David's but
a local one, having been vetted, makes much more sense
On Jan 7, 2018 18:20, "David Maeir-Epstein" <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Full Disclosure - I produce the Monitor so my objectivity can be
questioned.....
All three are different and have different costs.
The Foundation Center (Foundation Director online) is focussed on North
America and provides 24/7 access to their data base including the links to
990's to show you to whom the foundations gave in the past and how much. It
can be bought by the month at a more expensive rate than for a year - the
cost works out to $200 per month or $1500 for the year
The Atlas is much less user friendly in terms of sorting and analyzing,
though it has information on foundations outside of North America as well.
I'm not sure of the cost of the Atlas but I think it is comparable to the
cost of FDO (perhaps a bit cheaper). I've heard mixed reviews so do speak
with a current or former subscriber to get first hand feedback.
The Monitor is the cheapest and least comprehensive of the three. It is
basically an RFP heads up - each month some 30 foundations WHICH ALREADY
GIVE TO NGO'S IN ISRAEL and have deadlines coming up in the next three
months are listed (when there aren't 30 RFP's info on Foundations which
give in Israel and are currently accepting applications but have no
deadline are listed). You get the area of interest, the contact
information, websites/email etc. The drawback is that out of the 30 there
many only be a few that are relevant for any one project with a specific
target population or subject. But then again, you may only have the time to
submit a few each month.
I disagree with what Elana wrote about no substitute for your own
research. Clearly you do have to do your own research when it comes to
calling the foundation and verifying the data and trying to establish a
personal connection. However, we have someone putting in hours every day
doing the research - why not save your time for the writing and the
submissions? The cost is 1200 nis for a year or (1800 nis if your
organization has a budget of over 1 million nis).
We offer another approach - for 4500 nis within two weeks we will
produce you a comprehensive list of all the funding sources in North
American and Europe which are appropriate for your particular
project/organization with all the info you need - areas of interest, what
they give to and don't give to, submission procedures, to whom they have
given in the past in Israel and how much, names of their trustees and
professionals and more. Most of our searches come up with between 25 and 75
foundations and they are listed in order of priority in terms of upcoming
deadlines and our assessment of your chances for success.
Happy to speak with anyone who wants more info.
David Maeir-Epstein
CEO IsraelGrants
0544872262
dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/en
p.s. We just moved our offices to Kanyon Achim Yisrael Yad Harutzim 18
in Jerusalem.
David Maeir-Epstein, CEO
Israelgrants.com
0544872262
025636629
US phone number: (646)558-6648 <http://pilot.fone.do/#/app/dialer>
On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 4:31 PM, Elana Silver <elanasilver@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
I've been in the field for more than 15 years and have never benefited
from any one of those databases. Save your money. You need to do your own
research ( look at similar org's annual reports), google everything you can
think of, make contacts via linkedin. Those foundations on those databases
get zillions of applications and without actual person to person contact,
your chances are slim to zero.
THAT said, I use foundation center and guidestar to look at the 990's.
Also, Foundation center now has a new platform for free which is super
helpful. Looking at fundraising from the donor's perspective.
This is a question that comes up all the time.
This is also one of the reasons Shatil stopped providing the service.
On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 4:23 PM, Ellin Yassky <
dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Looking to take a subscription to a foundation research site. What is
preferred?:
Foundation Atlas
Foundation Center
Monitor
Thanks much
Ellin Yassky 052 255 1811
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