Can I please be removed from this group? Thanks. Shalom, Sondra Oster Baras Director, Israel Office CFOIC Heartland www.cfoic.com <BLOCKED::http://www.cfoic.com> _____ From: Ron Allswang [mailto:ron.allswang@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 2:07 PM To: shoshanna jaskoll Cc: Daniel Meyer; frforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Nirit Roessler Subject: [Fundraisers Forum] Re: Fundraising for percentage A sharav is expected Shabbat so chilling is indeed in order.This thread is over. In the future if one feels the thread has outlived its purpose...or the opposite...contact me privately. You can also choose to receive as digest. Looking forward to more discussions next week. shabbat shalom Ron On 6 בJun 2013 13:58, "shoshanna jaskoll" <shoshanna@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: CCCCCCHHHHHHHHIIIIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLLL Why do you get to decide whats spamming? Thats why I went to digest :) Bye On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Daniel Meyer <iyimisrael@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: STTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTOP YOUR NOW SPAMMING Daniel M. Meyer Executive Director International Young Israel Movement (IYIM) Israel Region Ph: 972-2-6505924 WWW.IYIM.ORG.IL <http://www.iyim.org.il/> Donate a used Sefer Torah to the I.D.F http://www.redeematorah.org/ Visit us at: www.iyim.org.il <http://www.iyim.org.il/> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:41 PM, shoshanna jaskoll <shoshanna@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Also, do donors not know that their money must go to support the entire org? Do they think the org works in a vacuum or totally on volunteers? If so, then we certainly must educate them. Add that to the list! On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Nirit Roessler <nirit.roessler8@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: The picture you portray could be nice if the 3rd player to this game is not just assuming, but rather knows in advance what the arrangement is and how much will be paid out as %. You don't seem to consider the donor's rights here, and thus miss an important point, in my opinion. 2013/6/6 shoshanna jaskoll <shoshanna@xxxxxxxxxxx> In regards to this issue, there are so many things that need to change. I wish I had all of the answers but after working with many amutot in various fields and surely as you are all well well aware- the issues are the same across the board. Some manage better and some worse. There needs to be a severe shift in the way nonprofits are seen and how they are run. Its easy to scream that this is unethical. I even got on that band wagon myself for a time. But I do not believe it is unethical. It may not be a great model, but sometimes it is what the org and 'fundraiser' are good with. If the cause is a good one, if all of the parties are honest and above board about it, then I do not see it as a problem in the short term and until our field can get the overhaul it deserves. A cousin of mine in US told me he and his friends are well aware that the fundraiser gets a cut of what he gives at parlor meetings etc. and why not? S/he is working hard for it. If the donor is made to understand the necessity of a fundraiser - say like a Marketing or PR budget in a biz- and all of those expenses are wrapped into the cost of the product- so why the HELL are NPOS given such a hard time for covering costs?? Now, if the org can in fact pay a proper salary, then they are the ones who need educating to understand that a resource dev isnt a schnoor but rather one who helps the org grow and be sustainable and that goes beyond money to brand, message, media for messages etc. Hope this made sense- coffee still uploading -- Shoshanna K Jaskoll www.Reach3K.com 052 773 0316 -- *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Nirit Roessler Professional Director of JCU (www.jcu.org.il) Independent Consultant and Trainer to the Non-Profit Sector "You need a break in order to get to a breakthrough" 02-6431380 054-6585260 *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ -- Shoshanna K Jaskoll www.Reach3K.com 052 773 0316 -- Shoshanna K Jaskoll www.Reach3K.com 052 773 0316