On Wed, 2003-11-26 at 08:08, Ricardo Gladwell wrote: > Jerry Stratton wrote: > > At 11:55 AM +0000 on 11/25/03, Ricardo Gladwell wrote: > >>closed-content to site alongside free-content is something the FRPGC > >>criticises the OGF and the OGL for. > > > > The OGF and the OGL allow *useful* content to > > be unusable; the OGL as I read it requires that some useful > > content be unusable, apparently even to the original author. The > > FDL does none of this. If it is useful content, it is not an > > Invariant Section, since Invariant Sections cannot be useful. > > Actually, I would dispute that Invariant Sections cannot contain useful > information. They can only contain content that cannot "fall directly > within that overall subject" of the document and they must deal > exclusively with "the relationship of the publishers or authors of the > Document to the Document's overall subject", but it remains to be seen > if there can or cannot be situations where the contents of a Secondary > Section might be useful. > > Given that, the OGL is worse in many ways: it allows the mixing of open > and closed content in such a way that it becomes impossible use even the > content designated as open. At least the FDL cmakes clear the division > between invariant and free content. And, as you say, there are no limits > on what type of content may be closed. Yet, the OGL at least allows you > to remove all the OGC from a document and republish it 100% OGC. You are > obliged to include nothing more than the Section 15 copyright notices. > > The FRPGC is a community-based organisation, but also an ethical > organisation and the ethical issues surrounding the 'closed' nature of > Invariant Sections cannot be ignored. Our freedoms state that we must > allow anyone to "use the content, for any purpose" and Invariant > Sections most definately do not allow this. > Invariant Sections are only a problem in *certain* cases. If one were to tag, say, "The Right to Read" onto a book, they would need to be able to use an Invariant Section. "The Right to Read" is not game material, and it's better if people *don't* change it, since it's a philosophical work. Now, I think republishers should be able to take it *out*, if they want to, but for them to change it would not be a good thing. Republishers of FDL'ed RPGs will *not* be able to add game material in an Invariant Section, since that would fall under the scope of the original material. And given the nature of role-playing games, almost *anything* they could add (aside from trivial and "about-the-authors" kind of stuff) could be contested as being "game material", from game-relevant mathematical formulas to the history of ancient Egypt. -J. Jensen