[freelists-users] Re: Old bug...

  • From: "Eric C. Vogel" <ericcvogel@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <freelists-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 09:49:10 -0500

I agree Majordomo was bad. I could get my ISP to setup digest because they
had to setup another list and was time consuming. I could not black list
anyone, and I had a user that I could not get rid of they was raising heck.
e-groups is ok if you don't mind the ads and constant down time. I like
Listar the best, and would not move from a non-listar host. Freelists has
had minimal down time. (ISP moving, ISP backbone closing (My company was
affected too (Rhythms)). Also with Majordomo and Flash.net had more down
time and Flash.net message turnaround wasn't that great.

I am staying with Freelists. They use a better product, stable server(s),
willingness to help (Not flakey like Flash.net) (eGroups you had to wait
days for a response.)

Eric Vogel

----- Original Message -----
From: "Learning Stone" <listadmin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <freelists-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 6:55 PM
Subject: [freelists-users] Re: Old bug...

> On 12 Mar 2002 at 8:14, John Madden wrote:
> > Well, here's the thing about Listar/Ecartis...  In short, we might not
> > using it for long.
> ...
> > If anyone's got any ideas or feelings on the matter, we're open to them.
> > That includes suggestions on other Free Software mailing list managers.
> Our list is a serial refugee. Over the years, we have
> tried: FindMail, OneList, eGroups, and two MajorDomo
> servers. We have also evaluated most of the free MLMs,
> also Mailman.
> None of the free MLM's were satisfactory, and eGroups
> probably harmed us. We used Majordomo for 18 months,
> in both cases our hosts stopped the service and took
> down Majordomo because of the trouble it was causing
> them. On the whole, it worked reasonably well for us,
> but it has none of the advanced features of Ecartis.
> Bounce management is non-existent -- everything that
> bounces, bounces back to the moderator.
> We looked quite carefully at MailMan. Apparently, it
> is good from the host's point of view -- robust,
> secure, scaleable -- but is not so good for users and
> moderators. Our impression was that it would be OK
> for announcement lists, unmoderated discussion lists
> where message formatting is not an issue, or short-
> term email conferences.
> Compared to everything else we have seen or used,
> Freelists ... as it is now ... is outstanding. For
> the first time, our list runs on autopilot with very
> little intervention from me. We even suspended
> moderation, something I thought would never happen.
> It would be a shame if Ecartis has to be abandoned.
> It's been a great success so far.
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