How about a Lamy Safari, Vista or Al-Star fitted with one of their calligraphy nibs? They come in 1.1 or 1.5 mm widths (1.9s are available, but scarce, I'm told). They certainly won't break the bank - The MSRP of an Al-Star is less than $40, and they're often found for less than $30. An italic nib is around $12.00. James Partridge The Pear Tree Pen Company www.PearTreePens.com PeartTreePens.blogspot.com Visit my CafePress store: www.cafepress.com/peartreepens -----Original Message----- From: fptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:fptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of RFalken Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 7:50 PM To: fptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Waterman or ? Please don't anybody take this the wrong way. I'm interested in getting a fountain pen for Italic Handwriting or everyday writing and I am not a member of the nouveau riche. Nor am I interested in putting more money into a pen than a small car useta cost. So, are there viable options or am I stuck with a Manuscript Pen, which requires a lot of downward pressure to make a stroke, or a 1mm Pilot Parallel Pen which is a lot better feeling in the hand but overlarge for correspondence? As a last resort, I could always pull up my word processor and then print the result, but that goes against the grain for a calligrapher or penmanship artist. Rafael ========================================================= To Unsubscribe: Send email to fptalk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject field. The email that you then receive MUST be replied to per instructions to complete the process. ========================================================= To Unsubscribe: Send email to fptalk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject field. The email that you then receive MUST be replied to per instructions to complete the process.