Re: [foxboro] v8.7 breaks the Common Alarm Group, just like v.8.4.3

  • From: "Lowell, Timothy" <Timothy.Lowell@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 18:47:50 -0500

Jerry,

I don't think so, but don't quote me on that. As far as I remember, the big 
change in how alarm messages are delivered happened within v8.4.3. Therefore, 
every version including and subsequent to v8.4.3 are compatible with each 
other. It's only anything earlier than v8.4.3 (and no QF applied) where the CAG 
will break. I haven't verified that personally, though.

Tim Lowell
Tesoro | 210-439-5914 (cell)

On Apr 20, 2012, at 3:41 PM, "Jerry Personal" <bourgeois.jerry@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Does this apply from 8.4.3 to 8.7?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jerry
> 
> On Apr 19, 2012, at 6:53 PM, "Boulay, Russ" <Russ.Boulay@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> Ok...thx...wanted to confirm it wasn't a V8.7 QF
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
>> Behalf Of Lowell, Timothy
>> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 4:52 PM
>> To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: [foxboro] v8.7 breaks the Common Alarm Group, just like v.8.4.3
>> 
>> No, we had to run the QF on our v.8.4.2 boxes.
>> 
>> Tim Lowell
>> Tesoro Corporation | 54741 Tesoro Rd, Kenai, AK 99611 | 907-776-3526 (work) 
>> | 210-439-5914 (cell)
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
>> Behalf Of Boulay, Russ
>> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 3:45 PM
>> To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: [foxboro] v8.7 breaks the Common Alarm Group, just like v.8.4.3
>> 
>> For verification....The QF had to be loaded on your V8.4.3 system correct?
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
>> Behalf Of Lowell, Timothy
>> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 4:38 PM
>> To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [foxboro] v8.7 breaks the Common Alarm Group, just like v.8.4.3
>> 
>> We are upgrading from v.8.4.2 to v8.7 at one of our sites, and we've found 
>> out that as soon as you put a v.8.7 box on the MESH, all the other v.8.4.2 
>> machines lose their Common Alarm Group functionality. This makes for some 
>> very unhappy console operators who have to silence each alarm at every 
>> console in the group, right in the middle of a very stressful shutdown.
>> Luckily, we have a small army of Invensys folks on site, and one of them 
>> unearthed QF1047977b from deep in the bowels of the support web site (after 
>> another two service guys and I missed it). This has (we think) fixed the 
>> problem, at least as of now.
>> 
>> This is EXACTLY the same problem that happened when you upgraded from v.8.2, 
>> 8.3, 8.4, 8.4.1 or 8.4.2  to v.8.4.3. You would think someone at Invensys 
>> would test this and fix it before they released v8.7, or at least check it 
>> and let us know in the v.8.7 release notes. You would be wrong. A customer 
>> had to discover this problem and create a CAR, and this QF was released on 
>> 4/2/12. Of course, you can't download it from the usual QF search page. The 
>> Invensys guy did an unorthodox search and happened to find it on a totally 
>> different page.
>> 
>> Happy upgrading!
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Tim Lowell
>> Tesoro
>> 
>> 
>> 
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