If you connect the FBK of Primary block to secondary measurement you = will have the anti-windup guaranteed. That is because you are opening the positive feedback in the primary algorithm for integral action as the secondary measurement froze by the limit of the output. Although the = best connection for handshaking signals between primary and secondary blocks = for operation of the cascade loop is as you can see in documents B0193AX = for PID block Norberto Marrassini=20 Invensys Systems Argentina Inc. Invensys Production Management Division N=FA=F1ez 4334 - (C1430AND) Buenos Aires - Argentina=20 Phone: (54-11) 6345-2215 Fax: (54-11) 6345-2111=20 -----Original Message----- From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx = [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of IQUEIROLOO@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 7:31 AM To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [foxboro] Windup in cascade configuration Hi folks, =20 I have some questions about the cascade configuration of two PID = blocks. In case of clamping in the secondary block, what happens with the output = of the primary block? For example, if the secondary block clamps at 50% output, I think that = the primary block should not keep integrating because in this a windup can = occur at its output. If I am right, the anti-windup works when the BCALCO of the secondary = block goes to the FBK and BCALCI of the primary block. Do I need anything = else to prevent windup? =20 Thanks in advance, =20 Ignacio Queirolo Olivera Control Avanzado Complejo Industrial Ensenada Repsol YPF - Qu=EDmica Tel.: 54 221 429-8400 ext. 26481 Fax: 54 221 429-8400 ext. 26209 iqueiroloo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:iqueiroloo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>=20 =20 AVISO LEGAL: Esta informaci=F3n es privada y confidencial y est=E1 dirigida = =FAnicamente a su destinatario. Si usted no es el destinatario original de este mensaje y = por este medio pudo acceder a dicha informaci=F3n por favor elimine el = mensaje. La distribuci=F3n o copia de este mensaje est=E1 estrictamente prohibida. = Esta comunicaci=F3n es s=F3lo para prop=F3sitos de informaci=F3n y no debe = ser considerada como propuesta, aceptaci=F3n ni como una declaraci=F3n de = voluntad oficial de REPSOL YPF S.A. y/o subsidiarias y/o afiliadas. La = transmisi=F3n de e-mails no garantiza que el correo electr=F3nico sea seguro o libre de = error. Por consiguiente, no manifestamos que esta informaci=F3n sea completa o precisa. Toda informaci=F3n est=E1 sujeta a alterarse sin previo aviso. = This information is private and confidential and intended for the = recipient only. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are = hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of = this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and shall not be regarded neither as a proposal, = acceptance nor as a statement of will or official statement from REPSOL YPF S.A. = and/or subsidiaries and/or affiliates. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed = to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. =20 =20 _______________________________________________________________________ This mailing list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by Invensys Process Systems (formerly The Foxboro Company). Use the info you obtain here at = your own risks. Read http://www.thecassandraproject.org/disclaimer.html =20 foxboro mailing list: //www.freelists.org/list/foxboro to subscribe: = mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=3Djoin to unsubscribe: = mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=3Dleave =20 _______________________________________________________________________ This mailing list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by Invensys Process Systems (formerly The Foxboro Company). Use the info you obtain here at your own risks. Read http://www.thecassandraproject.org/disclaimer.html foxboro mailing list: //www.freelists.org/list/foxboro to subscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=join to unsubscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=leave