Gaylon, We still have a bunch of the old style, (short) FBI's in service as well as the newer, (long), ones. We also have a large installed base of the old, (short), FBM's that are of 1988/1989 vintage. The form factor change happened with FBM's sometime around 1991-92 time frame and I thought it was more about better heat disipation than power issues, but I can't speak with authority on that. I bet some of the Foxboro guys can answer why the design was changed. We have had pretty good luck with all of the FBM's and FBI's in terms of reliability and have been tracking failure rates looking for a signal that tells us we are approaching end of life. We had a lot of infant mortality in 1989-90 timeframe but since that time those modules have been quite reliable. The past two times we have needed to do EEprom updates on the FBM's we have experienced increasingly higher failures to EEprom successfully and we see this as a potential end of life signal. We have also experienced more failures during the very rare occasions that we power down the FBM's and then reapply power. We have just started a ten year upgrade plan to replace the 100 series FBM's with 200 series because we know that all electronic components will eventually fail. We feel that 16 years of continuous service is probably pushing it and it will cost us a bunch of money if we start having regular failures of IO, some of which will cause down-time. Of course all of this also means that we will need to change out CP-30's and 40's to something that can talk to the 200 series IO and although we already have several CP-60's, I hate to spend new money on old technology so we will be moving to ZCP-270's and the MESH network ASAA. Tom VandeWater Control Systems Developer/Analyst Dow Corning Corporation Carrollton, KY USA -----Original Message----- From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Hicks, Gaylon F. Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 4:58 PM To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [foxboro] Short FBI Experience Hi All, We have a system with several of the old "Short" style Field Bus Isolators (PN P0400VE-0F). So far we have had good luck with these 1992 era FBIs, but we have had one fail recently. What I'm fishing for here is any experience with these old style FBIs, either good or bad, so we can determine if we need to look at replacing these any time soon. I can't help the sneaking suspicion that there is something wrong with these old short FBIs that caused the change to the new style long FBI. I found a CAR #1000440 that suggests there were a few power problems with some of the old FBIs. Any information, insight, rumors, or outright speculation would be appreciated. Thanks, Gaylon Hicks TVA - Browns Ferry NP _______________________________________________________________________ This mailing list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by Invensys Process Systems (formerly The Foxboro Company). Use the info you obtain here at your own risks. Read http://www.thecassandraproject.org/disclaimer.html foxboro mailing list: //www.freelists.org/list/foxboro to subscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=join to unsubscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=leave _______________________________________________________________________ This mailing list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by Invensys Process Systems (formerly The Foxboro Company). Use the info you obtain here at your own risks. Read http://www.thecassandraproject.org/disclaimer.html foxboro mailing list: //www.freelists.org/list/foxboro to subscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=join to unsubscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=leave