Re: [foxboro] RE : Barriers to migration to Windows

  • From: "Johnson, Alex P \(IPS\)" <alex.johnson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 15:10:58 -0400

I understand that xcopy will copy files between machines using the standard=
 MS notation

xcopy <file> \\<serverName>\<path>

It can copy sub-directories as well.


Regards,

Alex Johnson
Invensys Systems, Inc.
10900 Equity Drive
Houston, TX 77041
713.329.8472 (voice)
713.329.1700 (fax)
713.329.1600 (switchboard)
alex.johnson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


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From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On=
 Behalf Of Hillier, Bill
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:35 AM
To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [foxboro] RE=A0: Barriers to migration to Windows

I use a utility from Microsoft called Robocopy. It makes the target =3D
folders the same as the source. It only copies/deletes the files it =3D
needs to in order make the source and target the same. It comes in the =3D
Windows Server 2003 Resource Kit Tools package. It works great and is =3D
fast.

Here is the syntax I use in a batch file to make the folder on the =3D
source the same as the folder on the target station. I put a line in the =
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batch file for each AW.
robocopy  d:\opt\lup\ \\1aw1we\IA\opt\lup\ /e


Bill Hillier

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From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] =
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On Behalf Of Wiggins, Bryan
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 2:45 PM
To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [foxboro] RE=3DA0: Barriers to migration to Windows

We Use the scrip "Blow" also. =3D3D20
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Hayden Co

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From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Pulas, Philip
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:38 AM
To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [foxboro] RE : Barriers to migration to Windows



We currently have 101 MS AW's on our Mesh (as well as 12 more on 3 =3D3D3D
offline nodes for training and development) and there is no file sharing =
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possible.  All "common" files (displays, library objects, etc.) must be =3D=

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copied around to every workstation, though FTP and TELNET are not needed =
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for this.

There are two ways to do this (one makes it very easy and one is very =3D
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time consuming):

Method 1: We were provided a scripting tool called Blow (I don't know if =
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Foxboro provided it or not) that copies files around to any/all AW's =3D
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that you choose.  On I/A v8.2 AW's you have to make sure the log to a =3D
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file option is not checked.  Here is a description from its readme file:

        Blow Readme

        General
        The blow script resembles the traditional blow script that was written  
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for Solaris.  The blow script will copy files from the local machine    to =
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all remote machines defined in the rhosts.txt, located in the same      =3D
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directory as the script.
        Description
        The blow script does not require any typing to copy files over to       
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remote stations.  Instead, a shortcut to the blow script may be added   =3D
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to the Send To items under the contextual menu (right mouse menu) or    to =
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the desktop.  Then, any number of files and folders may be selected     to =3D=

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be remote copied.  The user may then right mouse click on the   selected =3D=

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items and under the Send To menu, send them to the remote       stations.  =3D
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Alternatively, the user may then drag and drop the items to     the Blow =3D
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Shortcut on the desktop.

Method 2: In Windows Explorer, you can add each workstation as a network =
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place as follows: Open Windows Explorer, click on My Network Places, =3D
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double-click Add Network Place, click Next when the prompt appears, wait =
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for an option to appear for "Choose another network location" and select =
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it (this can be immediate or within a couple of minutes), click Next, =3D
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for the address enter \\$GCLBUG\ia (for d drive) or \\$GCLBUG\c$ (for c =3D=

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drive), click Next, click Next (or change the name it will display), =3D
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click Finish.  It will now always appear under My Network Places.

Thanks,
Philip Pulas
Tesoro
Golden Eagle Refinery
Martinez, CA

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From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] =
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On Behalf Of tom.vandewater@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 10:09 AM
To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [foxboro] RE=3D3D3DA0: Barriers to migration to Windows

        This is an interesting thread indeed.  USB drives on MS AW's.  When we 
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moved to the MESH and AWXP's we immediately realized that the Windows =3D
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boxes appeared to be intentionally isolated from access to other boxes, =3D=

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(even other Windows boxes on the MESH.  Unless I'm missing something, =3D
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there is no way to do even a basic file transfer or remote login to the =3D=

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MS AW's unless you take matters into your own hands.  Given a fast new =3D
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network, you might have expected that Foxboro would have provided some =3D
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way to keep common system files and shared graphics updated between =3D3D
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boxes.  It wasn't obvious to me.  We immediately started using USB =3D
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drives to handle all of these administrative transfers.  FTP and Telnet =3D=

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services are by default disabled and Foxboro doesn't create a common =3D3D
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workgroup that would allow sharing via the standard MS capability.
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there?  Please chime in.  What have you done to share files between the =3D=

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MS AW's/WP's?  Have you enabled FTP and/or TELNET services?  Have you =3D
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established an MS workgroup to share files between AW's?  If so, is it a =
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Foxboro approved method?  Did you go-it-alone and break any of the =3D
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Foxboro apps?  Given my perceived lack of connectivity between MS AW's =3D
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it is even harder for me to understand what the drivers are to migrate.  =
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I am far from being Foxboro MS savvy so don't hesitate to enlighten me =3D
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on how I can better use/administer the boxes running on this platform.  =3D=

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My reply might sound cynical but my intent is really bent at learning =3D
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how to optimize/utilize the two MS AW's that we MUST have on site to =3D3D
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support the MESH stations.

Tom VandeWater
Control Systems Developer/Analyst
Dow Corning Corporation
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