No scolding intended, Jeremy. I'm just trying to be sure that what I think is missing is what others think is missing. Thanks for the thoughtful input. AJ -----Original Message----- From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: 8/26/04 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [foxboro] Operating System Updates On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 17:08:45 -0400, Johnson, Alex (Foxboro) <ajohnson@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Would you please elaborate on > 1) Solaris is more functional I feel like I've just been scolded by the headmaster.... but let me try and substantiate my claims: 1. XP stations do not provide remote displays 2. I/A on Windows restricts ICC access to CPs hosted by the local machine. (Sascha) 3. XP stations do not provide development header files (I believe you said this was on purpose) 4. XP stations do not provide the remote service that Unix has by default: telnet, ftp, rcp, etc... 5. Mixed platform nodes are not fully integrated (graphics need to be converted) There are others deficiencies as noted previously in other threads. Many of these functions can be added to the Windows stations by installing 3rd party utilities but that leads to the next question.... > 2) Solaris is more stable than XP. Ok, here I must confess that I have not personally used any of the new XP stations but I have used the NT ones in the past. As an operator workstation, they seem to be pretty good (the install procedure is more of a pain than the Solaris boxes though). The problem comes when installing 3rd party utilities to regain some of the functionality of the Unix stations. The more apps added to windows stations, the more stability problems that seem to occur: lockups, blue screens, resource problems, etc. I remember a presentation given by someone (I forget who) from Foxboro at the last User's Group meeting in Orlando. They had a slide showing the Mean Time between Failures for Windows NT vs. Windows 2000. NT had something like 20 days and 2K was much better. Now you are asking what does this have to do with XP, well not much, but I remember before the new stations we released, Foxboro was touting that the NT stations were just as stable as the Solaris based ones. An MTBF of 20 days (Foxboro numbers) does not (to me at least) seem as stable as the Sun boxes. So now the new XP boxes are said to be as stable as the Sun ones: this seems to be a contradiction. I have Solaris WP's that have been running for over a year, could I really expect the same from a Windows box??? I admit that I have some bias when it comes to the Windows stations, but it is a bias that comes from experience. I would gladly embrace Windows stations that give me all the functionality and stability as the Sun boxes, but I have not seen this yet. Has anyone? _______________________________________________________________________ This mailing list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by Invensys Process Systems (formerly The Foxboro Company). Use the info you obtain here at your own risks. Read http://www.thecassandraproject.org/disclaimer.html foxboro mailing list: //www.freelists.org/list/foxboro to subscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=join to unsubscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=leave _______________________________________________________________________ This mailing list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by Invensys Process Systems (formerly The Foxboro Company). Use the info you obtain here at your own risks. Read http://www.thecassandraproject.org/disclaimer.html foxboro mailing list: //www.freelists.org/list/foxboro to subscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=join to unsubscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=leave