Pedro, Over the past several years there have been many paper machine control projects implemented with Foxboro IA around the world. In the early days of IA, the 'standard' model for the Foxboro apps group was Foxboro for Operator consoles and analog control, with Allen Bradley for contacts. That has been a successful model. Others do the job with Foxboro alone or connected with other PLCs. Foxboro IA installations I personally have worked on run from small machines of under 100 TPD to large machines running over 2000 TPD, some with two or even three fourdriniers, stock prep and approach systems. I/O counts run from several hundred to thousands. Foxboro has interfaces to HW/Measurex, ABB and Valmet gauging systems including profile handling built into their display manager system. Commonly, the gauging software handles the cross machine controls, and the supervisory level of MD controls, connecting to the IA DCS, usually with networked communications (though there are some with hardwired, IO connections). There are, however, some machines with complete machine direction and cross machine controls in the Foxboro IA, and just measurement handling in the gauging system. Drives systems including GE, Siemens, and various of the Allen Bradley companies are normally connected to the DCS, also through network connections. Recently we were part of a project which replaced an Allen-Bradley Stromburg drive system (connected to IA through the ABB gauging system) with a ControlLogix based controller. The new ControlLogix connects to IA directly, and now passes drives information to the ABB. Having worked with Voith and Valmet (now Metso, I guess) I can say that both are DCS friendly. They often do the basic machine controls in PLCs that they supply, relying on "others" for HMI and process controls. Foxboro has a pretty good set of integration products, so this works well. Early on there were concerns that Operator Console speed was not fast enough for machine control, but 50 series processors cured that. Now with the Mesh based systems, speed is exceptional. Also, within the Invensys group there are products geared specifically to paper mills for data gathering and reporting including the usual roll/set stuff as the paper comes off the machine. Again, as the other guys said, drop me a line off-list if you would like more specifics. One specifically example; a machine in the US making bleached board for food packaging includes 240 control loops, 3600 contact I/O (via PLC) and some 500 analog inputs. It connects to an ABB gauging system with 3 platforms and a GE drive system for something like 50 sectional drives. The machine includes 3, on-machine coaters. All 14 operator consoles carry the same set of displays, which include process controls, machine controls, gauging system operations, and drives information. (drives controls like draw adjustments, etc. are handled by small units supplied by the drives system manufacturer). The standard operating crew is 5 people, and they must be able to handle any of the controls from anywhere in the machine area. That control system handles all operations from the high density towers through the reel. Another, in Mexico, probably in the 1000 or 1500 TPD range. All furnish is recycled. 3 Fourdriniers, each with its own pulping, stock prep and approach systems. 3 in-line coaters. Valmet machine, Voith gauging and cross machine controls, GE drives, 23 sections. 3 Valmet dilution headboxes, with very calculation intensive controls. IA DCS handles all controls from pulping the recycled furnish through the reel. Machine controls are by Allen Bradley PLC-5. Machine direction weight, moisture, coat weight and ash controls were designed by Voith are implemented in IA, with a Voith system handling cross machine controls. IA handles all process controls, automated grade change including recipe handling, and includes batching controls for the coating kitchen. IA provides summary drives information, but a GE Cimplicity system handles the high speed data gathering and trending functions for the drives. Connections for the gauging and drives systems are by Ethernet, with FeedForward integration interfaces. Ops Consoles carry all IA and Voith displays. The implementation was done in stages, some by Foxboro Mexico, some by the Mill, some by FeedForward. Hope this doesn't sound like a sales pitch. I am not a salesman; I'm an engineer, but I've worked on Foxboro systems for 35 years now and I like working on paper machines, so your question struck a familiar note with me. Regards, William C Ricker FeedForward, Inc _______________________________________________________________________ This mailing list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by Invensys Process Systems (formerly The Foxboro Company). Use the info you obtain here at your own risks. Read http://www.thecassandraproject.org/disclaimer.html foxboro mailing list: //www.freelists.org/list/foxboro to subscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=join to unsubscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=leave