Thanks Ed. I agree that it is a rare occasion to need a backup boot CD. We recently had a CP Boot host fail and it wouldn't re boot. We were able to use the Acronis boot CD to backup the D: partition and then did a day0 on another box and restored D: to it toget going again. Needless to say, we didn't have a current backup. Since it was a boot partition problem the acronis boot cd allowed us to backup all of the critical fox data on D: partition. That episode made us all believers in regular backups. Tom Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: "Larsen, Ed" <ed.larsen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 21:21:42 To: <foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [foxboro] Convert a Foxboro P91 Server from a P91 Dell Power Edge 2800 to a new Dell Power Edge 2900 Tom, Your synopsis is correct. Although on rare occasion it would be convenient to backup a box without loading the backup software, it hasn't been an issue for me. All of the Invensys P90, P91, and P92 come with the Dell restore cd. One of the first things I do on the boxes we receive is to make sure BESR is installed. Configure it to back up to our servers and I never worry about it being backed up again. Operators never even know the backup is being made. -----Original Message----- From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tom VandeWater Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 8:08 PM To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [foxboro] Convert a Foxboro P91 Server from a P91 Dell Power Edge 2800 to a new Dell Power Edge 2900 Ed and Corey, Ver 8.5 of Symantec Backup and Restore trial/downloadable version does have both the Application CD image and an .iso file to create a bootable CD for restore. We tested that and it works. Ed, the Symantec Backup and Restore Ver. 7.0 sold by Invensys comes with two CD's. The application installation CD, (not bootable), and the Restore CD, (bootable). In order to do an image backup with this arrangement you have to boot up off of the hard drive, install the Symantec Backup Application on the hard drive, and then run the application to do a backup. Is that your experience? Or do you have a Symantec boot CD that will allow you to do a backup without loading Symantec on the hard drive? Symantec Ver.8.5 has to be loaded on the hard drive to do a backup also. The Acronis "True Image" Backup and Restore we have been using has both the backup and restore utility on a single bootable CD. With this arrangement you don't have to load anything onto the hard drive to be able to do a backup and you can do a backup of the existing image and then restore a different image before rebooting the box. The strength of the Symantec offering is that you can schedule online backups to remote storage across the 2nd ethernet network of all your AW's without shutting them down. Cheers, Tom VandeWater Control Conversions, Inc. Kapolei, HI On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Larsen, Ed <ed.larsen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Corey, > > In regards to #1. The only thing that I know that Symantec BESR does not > have is a trialware iso that will boot as a recovery cd. If I remember > correctly, their trialware will let you back up for a period of time, > but you cannot boot off a recovery cd and verify that it will restore. > That was a Symantec shortcoming I was not happy about. > > I use BESR extensively for backup and restore and have not found > anything yet I could not accomplish with it in regards to backup or > restore of a windows box. _______________________________________________________________________ This mailing list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by Invensys Process Systems (formerly The Foxboro Company). Use the info you obtain here at your own risks. 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