Patrick beat me to it. Foxboro's PID being a "positional" (absolute) algorithm, this has been the case in my experience (the ramping is of course caused by your INT/BTIME being nonzero). It took some getting used to when I came from Brand H, which uses a "velocity" (incremental/differential) calculation method for its outputs. Corey Clingo From: "foxpat" <foxpat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: 06/06/2012 04:04 PM Subject: Re: [foxboro] Controller Issue after upgrade Sent by: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx David, In PD mode there is no integral and if .ERROR = 0.0 the output will be 0.0 so it seems like normal behavior. If you want the output to be something different, say 50% you can set this in the .BIAS in which case you have defined the 'working-point' to be at 50% which typically could make more sense depending on the application. So, maybe your configured parameters are identical with the CP30 but if the .BIAS was set from the detail display and no upload was done then maybe you are now missing the .BIAS value? Regards, Patrick Martens Zeeland Refinery -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Namens Johnson, David Verzonden: woensdag 6 juni 2012 22:20 Aan: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Onderwerp: [foxboro] Controller Issue after upgrade Hello all, We are looking into some strange behavior after a recent upgrade from a CP30 to an FCP270. A PIDA block was set to be Proportional Derivative, MODOPT=3, PBAND = 125, INT=0.075 (INT is BTIME in PD mode). The BCALCI and FBK were both connected to the PIDA's own .OUT parameter. The Period is a 3, Phase is a 2. I think the BPC of the CP30 and FCP270 are both .5 seconds. Behavior In the FCP270, the output drives to the low output limit. It's as though the loop is in open loop control. Looking at trends indicate that this loop was controlling in the CP30. The configuration is identical to what it was in the CP30. Any advice on what to check. Thanks, David _______________________________________________________________________ This mailing list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by Invensys Process Systems (formerly The Foxboro Company). Use the info you obtain here at your own risks. Read http://www.thecassandraproject.org/disclaimer.html foxboro mailing list: //www.freelists.org/list/foxboro to subscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=join to unsubscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=leave