But for some applications, they make sense (e.g., OPC gateways), even to a die-hard Unixhead like me. Unfortunately, ours is locking up about once every couple of months (but not, alas, blue-screening, so NT's auto-reboot mechanism does not work), so I'll probably have to do the icon thing so we can "preemptively" reboot. I wonder if XP would fix this. On thing I like about the widespread adoption of Windoze is that it has opened the market up a bit, allowing and maybe encouraging vendors which did not traditionally play in the DCS space to offer systems that have a lot of DCS functionality at a fraction of the "old-school" DCS price. This has removed the DCS vendors from their high horses a bit, forcing them to open their systems, rethink their architectures (with mixed results, sometimes :), and lower prices. It's too bad that after 10 years or so in existence, Windoze itself is not yet completely up to the task of industrial control. Corey Clingo BASF Corp. "Opinions expressed here are strictly my own" :) |---------+----------------------------> | | "Jones, Charles | | | R. (Chuck)" | | | <CRJones@xxxxxxxx| | | > | | | Sent by: | | | foxboro-bounce@fr| | | eelists.org | | | | | | | | | 01/09/2004 08:47 | | | AM | | | Please respond to| | | foxboro | | | | |---------+----------------------------> >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | | To: "'foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" | | cc: | | Subject: Re: [foxboro] AW70 Shutdown | >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| "...and I need to reboot the AW70 as elegantly as possible..." What is "rebooting"? We run the 51 series instead of the 70 series. Our processors only go down if the power grid goes down (3 or 4 times in 10 years). Am I supposed to turn them off periodically? Why? Is this a "Microsoft advantage" thing? The only problem I've noticed so far is that after about six years of continuous operation, the picture tubes on the monitors begin to lose colors (usually red goes first) and need to be replaced. Sorry. You guys write about the "whiz bang" new stuff all the time. Since our UNIX system never breaks, we never see the new stuff. (Insert crocodile tears here.) <smile> Cheers, Chuck Jones Refinery Automation Tate & Lyle North America -- Lafayette South Plant _______________________________________________________________________ This mailing list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by Invensys Process Systems (formerly The Foxboro Company). Use the info you obtain here at your own risks. Read http://www.thecassandraproject.org/disclaimer.html foxboro mailing list: //www.freelists.org/list/foxboro to subscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=join to unsubscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=leave