Can't blame Foxboro (or other DCS providers) for this entirely, as this ADS Server thing is being driven by HomeLand Terrorists, I mean HomeLand Security (NERC-FERC-JERK,etc). The requirement of individual logins by them really complicates things. I think the newest Fox version (or maybe the next version) may allow Fox password changing from the default also, another bigee with NERC, etc, but I don't think this would require ADS Domain Services. My reference to HomeLand Terrorists is just my personal opinion (not company sponsored or advocated) and only refers to the fact they are costing American business lots of money and reduced productivity. Sure hope they don't come get me for this semi-slur, but I'm not too worried as I have contacts (on our side) at Bagram prison where they will probably send me. Jack Easley -----Original Message----- From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Balmer, Robert D. Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 8:50 AM To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [foxboro] 8.5 Domain Controller Very interesting thread going on here. Our site is at the beginning of another wonderful upgrade and it appears to me that we will have to build a larger DCS office to hold all of the new servers for this and that and that and that and that. Let alone support the cost of installation. Is anyone at Foxboro listening? However to be fair I have seen two of Foxboro's competitors being installed over the last two years and it was the same dog and pony show. That being said it doesn't make it any easier to go to management and get the funding. Robert Balmer Senior Application Analyst/Programmer CCST Climax Molybdenum Co. 2598 Highway 61 Fort Madison IA 52627 (319) 463-2206 Confidentiality Notice: This email message, including any attachments, contains or may contain confidential information intended only for the addressee. If you are not an intended recipient of this message, be advised that any reading, dissemination, forwarding, printing, copying or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply message and delete this email message and any attachments from your system. _______________________________________________________________________ This mailing list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by Invensys Process Systems (formerly The Foxboro Company). Use the info you obtain here at your own risks. Read http://www.thecassandraproject.org/disclaimer.html foxboro mailing list: //www.freelists.org/list/foxboro to subscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=join to unsubscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=leave