No sorry if it confused you. Most anti-spam products use severall methodes to detect spam. One of these methodes is Bayesian filtering. My advice is to choose a product which has Bayesian filter as one of the filters it is using. Gabrie ________________________________ From: Marvin Cummings [mailto:mcummings@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 11:19 PM To: [ExchangeList] Subject: [exchangelist] RE: iHateSpam vs GFI http://www.MSExchange.org/ Thanks for that reply but I'm kind of confused now. Are you saying I will have to go out and purchase a seperate product in addition to GFI? Or that GFI's interface works well with the Bayesian filter? -----Original Message----- From: Gabrie van Zanten [mailto:gabrie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 5:08 PM To: [ExchangeList] Subject: [exchangelist] RE: iHateSpam vs GFI http://www.MSExchange.org/ Hi I'm evaluating GFI Mail Essentials right now. The latest version has Bayesian filtering which is a hughe step forward. At the moment Bayesian filtering is considerd one of the best methods to filter out spam BUT it does take some effort. Actually, the more spam you get, the better the filter gets. What I have done for my organisation: - Created a user SPAM . Told GFI to forward all spam to that user. - Created a folder called HAM and a folder called FALSE SPAM. I told my users to regularly check the SPAM folder and if they find e-mails that are not considered spam to them, they could drag it to the HAM folder. If in their normal mailbox they receive an e-mail which is spam but not considered spam by the filter, then they should move the mail from their mailbox to the HAM folder. Once every few days, I use the Bayesian wizard to update his settings according to the HAM and FALSE SPAM folders. And I must admit that we get less false positives every time. Since 14th oct, we have received only 2 false positives, 6 mails that were not marked as spam but should have been and over 500 SPAM mails. In the beginning it was much worse. So a Bayesian filter gets better every time you teach it. And now you should just look for software that has a great interface to your bayesian filter. Ofcourse, other filters are also needed, don't forget about them. Gabrie ________________________________ From: Marvin Cummings [mailto:mcummings@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 9:26 PM To: [ExchangeList] Subject: [exchangelist] iHateSpam vs GFI http://www.MSExchange.org/ Anyone have any points they'd care to share as to why they'd choose one of these products over the other? The need is to have a centralized spam filter that prevents any and all spam from making it to the users inbox. Also don't want to have to sit and add entry after entry of items to be filtered. GFI wins on the pricing being that I only have 25 users. I really would like to know how most feel on this. Thanks ------------------------------------------------------ List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=exchangelist Exchange Newsletters: http://www.msexchange.org/pages/newsletter.asp Exchange FAQ: http://www.msexchange.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ ------------------------------------------------------ Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: Leading Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com No.1 ISA Server Resource Site: http://www.isaserver.org Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ Network Security Library: http://www.secinf.net/ Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com ------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------ List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=exchangelist Exchange Newsletters: http://www.msexchange.org/pages/newsletter.asp Exchange FAQ: http://www.msexchange.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ ------------------------------------------------------ Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: Leading Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com No.1 ISA Server Resource Site: http://www.isaserver.org Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ Network Security Library: http://www.secinf.net/ Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com ------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------ List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=exchangelist Exchange Newsletters: http://www.msexchange.org/pages/newsletter.asp Exchange FAQ: http://www.msexchange.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ ------------------------------------------------------ Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: Leading Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com No.1 ISA Server Resource Site: http://www.isaserver.org Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ Network Security Library: http://www.secinf.net/ Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com ------------------------------------------------------