But there is nothing you can do about, so there is nothing to be done. There are some spam lists that list by B or C class. If you have happen to use an ISP on who has their B class blocked because 5% of the IP addresses in that block were reported spending spam, you are on the list and there is nothing you can do. If it becomes a problem, only choice is to change ISP and make sure they know the reason why. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You > -----Original Message----- > From: A. M. Salim [mailto:msalim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 12:33 PM > To: [ExchangeList] > Subject: [exchangelist] RE: can't send to yahoo.com > > http://www.MSExchange.org/ > > Hi, > > > What we tell anyone who has that kind of problem is get a new ISP. > > It is not your problem, it is their problem. > > I think you missed the point. Yes, we can tell the customer to get a new > ISP, but he can decide instead to get a new web/email host, because he has > a stronger relationship with his (dumb) ISP, believes his ISP more than > us, etc. Does not matter who is right or wrong. > > Mike. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: A. M. Salim [mailto:msalim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] > > > Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 11:51 AM > > > To: [ExchangeList] > > > Subject: [exchangelist] RE: can't send to yahoo.com > > > > > > http://www.MSExchange.org/ > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > Listing on one spam database is of no concern. Anyone who is blocking > > > > based on listing in one spam database does not understand the Internet. > > > > > > yea, but you'd be surprised what some system admins do out there. We had > > > one irate customer who could not receive any emails because his ISP was > > > using http://www.blackholes.us/ as if that's an RBL! We contacted that > > > ISP and nothing we said could convince him to stop using it as an RBL. > > > All his responses were along the lines of "you are listed and you need to > > > stop hosting spammers", as if http://www.blackholes.us/ is a list of > > > spammers! And the end result was we had a very irate customer, upset at > > > us for no fault of ours, because some stupid admin out there did not know > > > the Internet or how to configure his mailserver to use RBL's properly. > > > > > > In other words, admins who "do not know the internet" eventually become > > > your problem, like it or not. > > > > > > $0.02 > > > > > > best regards > > > Mike Salim > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > > List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=exchangelist > > > Exchange Newsletters: http://www.msexchange.org/pages/newsletter.asp > > > Exchange FAQ: http://www.msexchange.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > > Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: > > > World of Windows Networking: http://www.windowsnetworking.com > > > Leading Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com > > > No.1 ISA Server Resource Site: http://www.isaserver.org > > > Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ > > > Network Security Library: http://www.secinf.net/ > > > Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > > You are currently subscribed to this MSEXchange.org Discussion List as: > > > johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > To unsubscribe visit > > http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=exchangelist > > > Report abuse to listadmin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=exchangelist > > Exchange Newsletters: http://www.msexchange.org/pages/newsletter.asp > > Exchange FAQ: http://www.msexchange.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: > > World of Windows Networking: http://www.windowsnetworking.com > > Leading Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com > > No.1 ISA Server Resource Site: http://www.isaserver.org > > Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ > > Network Security Library: http://www.secinf.net/ > > Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > You are currently subscribed to this MSEXchange.org Discussion List as: > msalim@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > To unsubscribe visit http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=exchangelist > > Report abuse to listadmin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=exchangelist > Exchange Newsletters: http://www.msexchange.org/pages/newsletter.asp > Exchange FAQ: http://www.msexchange.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ > ------------------------------------------------------ > Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: > World of Windows Networking: http://www.windowsnetworking.com > Leading Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com > No.1 ISA Server Resource Site: http://www.isaserver.org > Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ > Network Security Library: http://www.secinf.net/ > Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com > ------------------------------------------------------ > You are currently subscribed to this MSEXchange.org Discussion List as: > johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe visit http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=exchangelist > Report abuse to listadmin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx