RE: can't send to yahoo.com

  • From: "John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)" <johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "'[ExchangeList]'" <exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:44:44 -0700

But there is nothing you can do about, so there is nothing to be done. There
are some spam lists that list by B or C class. If you have happen to use an
ISP on who has their B class blocked because 5% of the IP addresses in that
block were reported spending spam, you are on the list and there is nothing
you can do. If it becomes a problem, only choice is to change ISP and make
sure they know the reason why.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


> -----Original Message-----
> From: A. M. Salim [mailto:msalim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 12:33 PM
> To: [ExchangeList]
> Subject: [exchangelist] RE: can't send to yahoo.com
> 
> http://www.MSExchange.org/
> 
> Hi,
> 
> > What we tell anyone who has that kind of problem is get a new ISP.
> > It is not your problem, it is their problem.
> 
> I think you missed the point.  Yes, we can tell the customer to get a new
> ISP, but he can decide instead to get a new web/email host, because he has
> a stronger relationship with his (dumb) ISP, believes his ISP more than
> us, etc.  Does not matter who is right or wrong.
> 
> Mike.
> 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: A. M. Salim [mailto:msalim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 11:51 AM
> > > To: [ExchangeList]
> > > Subject: [exchangelist] RE: can't send to yahoo.com
> > >
> > > http://www.MSExchange.org/
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > > Listing on one spam database is of no concern. Anyone who is
blocking
> > > > based on listing in one spam database does not understand the
Internet.
> > >
> > > yea, but you'd be surprised what some system admins do out there.  We
had
> > > one irate customer who could not receive any emails because his ISP
was
> > > using http://www.blackholes.us/ as if that's an RBL!  We contacted
that
> > > ISP and nothing we said could convince him to stop using it as an RBL.
> > > All his responses were along the lines of "you are listed and you need
to
> > > stop hosting spammers", as if http://www.blackholes.us/ is a list of
> > > spammers!  And the end result was we had a very irate customer, upset
at
> > > us for no fault of ours, because some stupid admin out there did not
know
> > > the Internet or how to configure his mailserver to use RBL's properly.
> > >
> > > In other words, admins who "do not know the internet" eventually
become
> > > your problem, like it or not.
> > >
> > > $0.02
> > >
> > > best regards
> > > Mike Salim
> > >
> > >
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